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2009-09-05 18:32
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138
SAM in pop-culture?

I stumbled across a track by Model-500 that made me think... Let's hear what SAM has been doing!

Time Space Transmat by Model-500:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_dRRg9JUC0&e

Das Boot by U96, of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwc0shJ2aYc

(...but is there anyway of knowing if it's made with Atari's Speech or C64's SAM? Are they 100% similar?)
2009-09-06 07:36
Angel of Death

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 210
The first video is most probably SAM because the tune is full of SID-like sounds. (he could be cheating as a lot of other people used to do. the AMIGA standard workbench speech engine sounded almost the same as SAM but only higher bit-rate. interpreter was just as simple.)
Second video could be the speech-engine that was available on the ATARI 1040 (not standard) which was the ultimate MIDI control computer at that time. As far as I know they more or less used the same phonemes and control-routines. Both developed by Tramiel and co. and both using 680x0 family processors it is very likely that they used the same software...
2009-09-06 08:57
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
Dunno about Das Boot. It does not sound precisely like C64-SAM to me. Sounds more like the engine used in "Audio Sculpture" on Amiga, whatever that is... Perhaps related to the same "family" of engines as mentioned by Angel of Death here.

:)
2009-09-06 09:24
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 321
The first track by 'Model 500' sounds a hell of a lot like SAM. 'U96 - Das Boot' well im not sure! The Amiga speech was nothing like SAM or what the Atari produced. Thanx for posting the links - Ive never heard of Model 500 before! What awesome music!! I remember the U96 track from when i was a kid.. =-))
2009-09-06 10:03
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
The Model 500 track is from 1985 which would limit the options of machines to use. Unless the youtube link is a later remix, I have no audio here.
2009-09-06 14:53
dalezy

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 475
christensen said it was done on his atari. and if my memory serves right, an old interview i've seen with him in 92/93 showed his trusty atari as well.
2009-09-07 11:54
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138
okay, not really sure what i was thinking, sorting out head now:

the Atari speech synthesis is the same as the one in Audiosculpture that megafrantic mentioned.

so U96 is not using SAM, and i bet you are right dalezy, that it's Atari. U96 always seemed a bit atari-lame to me. :)

here's a great use of SAM, for sure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO9sBqd5ch4
2009-09-13 08:23
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Definitely SAM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TIxRUSDzRI
2009-09-13 11:29
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 335
Zyron: haha, awesome
2009-09-14 17:50
KM
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Heh, made a Tom Waits remix using SAM.
This is a pure c64 tune, no effects added:

http://home.no/bust/downloads/Kristian_Myklebust_-_Whats_He_Bui..


2009-09-30 01:51
clonK
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Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 65
So, what is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZHiURcbGG4&feature=related made with?

out of interest... obv it aint SAM :P
2009-09-30 08:37
Adam

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 321
Nope, It ain't SAM - that's for sure!
What a shit song that was ... I could make better with my eyes closed while being tortured by those "US" military morons at Guentunemo Bay. =-)
2009-09-30 09:25
linde

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 47
Good one, Kribust!
2009-12-25 21:46
linde

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 47
Bump!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdlS5ss8xMM
2009-12-26 04:41
SIDWAVE
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Posts: 2238
Well, the speech dude in Windows is called Microsoft SAM.

Either SAM is a general term developers use, or MS has something to do with creating SAM for C64 ?
2009-12-27 11:34
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
S.A.M. = Software Automatic Mouth
2009-12-27 12:35
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
automated
2009-12-27 12:52
Zyron

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Posts: 2381
2009-12-27 15:06
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
you are right.
2009-12-27 16:21
Axel
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Posts: 42
Hipnosis - Astrodance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UNfdqV1Jqc
I think that this is C64's SAM voice
2009-12-28 00:59
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138
good stuff! axel, i think the one you posted is the amiga/atari speech synthesis. just like in this good ol' aphex track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpH7cone5lA

hm, but the italo track is from 1984 i just noticed. am i mistaking? again? i have to take a course in SAM. where is the professor? stephen hawkeye?

2010-01-24 13:25
Ben
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Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 163
Jean Michel Jarre also used a SAM, but not the C64 one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BCtK3dnatE
2010-01-24 13:46
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 453
SAM in a thrash metal song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkVjxEzSIhI
(2:36-2:43)
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