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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
database bug?
strange thing, noticed it with Combat Crazy +7 and Combat Crazy +7H - both entries are correctly credited to Master (released by).
now, if you add new release, and enter "combat crazy" as name, it will (correctly) find those two releases.
BUT - if you just search for it in the regular search, they will NOT get displayed (WTF).
additionally, if you look at the scener entry of Master - its not there either! (WTF)
edit: and it doesnt show on the frontpage either :) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Everything works as expected here. :O |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
tried as regular user? on masters scener entry i see the "decompiler fix", but not "combat crazy" (interestingly, none of the two entries)
edit: LOL - jeez. did someone recently add "easyflash release" as releasetype and then thought it would be a great idea TO DISABLE IT BY DEFAULT? /o\ (thats great, noone who uses custom view mode will see them, unless by accident he figures this out =D) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
I'll ping Perff. We also added REU-release type. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
yeah making them "enabled" by default for all users sounds like the sane thing to do =) |
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Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting hedningI'll ping Perff. We also added REU-release type.
This is quite interesting, such a release-type, but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see? |
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Klegg
Registered: Feb 2006
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This has probably never been mentioned or even thought about, but tags would be a great feature on CSDb. :) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
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Quote: Quoting hedningI'll ping Perff. We also added REU-release type.
This is quite interesting, such a release-type, but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see?
As a first step we decided it was easier to do like we have done for ages with IDE64 and Super CPU releases, aka. non stock stuff. The clean stock productions are still sorted like they should. It's not crazy many of them. There are about 200 EasyFlash releases and not many REU-releases, so it should be easy enough to find what you are looking for if you want a specific EasyFlash thing. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
Quote:but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see?
why implement it like it was planned many years ago when you can just aswell monkey patch it?
you should know how it works here by now =) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quote:but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see?
why implement it like it was planned many years ago when you can just aswell monkey patch it?
you should know how it works here by now =)
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
you really need to shave :o) |
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Mr.Ammo
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Posts: 228 |
Quoting hedningAs a first step we decided it was easier to do like we have done for ages with IDE64 and Super CPU releases, aka. non stock stuff. The clean stock productions are still sorted like they should. It's not crazy many of them. There are about 200 EasyFlash releases and not many REU-releases, so it should be easy enough to find what you are looking for if you want a specific EasyFlash thing.
Easier is not always better. While it seems the best of the worst solutions, it's almost always one or even two steps back.
But hey, I'm not a database designer, I just love clean and reliable data :-) |
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Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
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Quoting GroepazQuote:but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see?
why implement it like it was planned many years ago when you can just aswell monkey patch it?
you should know how it works here by now =)
I guess you're right ;) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quote:but how do we distinguish if a REU-release is a game, demo, tool, or whatever, now? Am I missing or not seeing somethings you guys do see?
why implement it like it was planned many years ago when you can just aswell monkey patch it?
you should know how it works here by now =)
We did roll out some of this stuff to get rid of tags in the entry names (ntsc fixes, broken release etc etc). Sure, it would be great to get it all implemented, but we are too few that actually upload, manage, update and take care of the database, and too many that just lurks around, whines and spends time creating dramas, using CSDb as an alterantive Facebook. :/ |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
NONE of that is related to how nothing gets implemented. There is one single reason why nothing happened for years. And you know it. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
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Quote: NONE of that is related to how nothing gets implemented. There is one single reason why nothing happened for years. And you know it.
You refer to the prophecy of The One who will bring balance to the Force? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
You can make fun of it all you want, it doesnt change anything. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: You can make fun of it all you want, it doesnt change anything.
I will fill up the database with releases instead. We have what we have. The One could make the system different/better, but until then we have what we have, and what we have is better than nothing. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
you didnt get the point (which ammo was already hinting at). adding this new releasetype and using it instead of keeping the proper releasetype and have the extra info in the name *removes* info from the db. it doesnt improve anything, it makes things worse. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: you didnt get the point (which ammo was already hinting at). adding this new releasetype and using it instead of keeping the proper releasetype and have the extra info in the name *removes* info from the db. it doesnt improve anything, it makes things worse.
We have had Super CPU, C128 and IDE64 categories for ages. This move only cleans up the mess a bit and adds to this (perhaps faulty) logic. When a new system is ready it will be an easy job to sort the separated categories into the mainframe. If they weren't separated they would be harder to find, and I also wonder who will do the rest of the job with the other 170000 releases. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
"We have had Super CPU, C128 and IDE64 categories for ages."
and those should have been eliminated instead of adding more nonsense on the pile.
"When a new system is ready it will be an easy job to sort the separated categories into the mainframe."
nope, it will be a manual job for someone to look at every single entry and choose the right releasetype.
"If they weren't separated thew would be harder to find"
nope, the info was already in the filenames - and moving those into the proper db entries would be the matter of writing a simple script. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: "We have had Super CPU, C128 and IDE64 categories for ages."
and those should have been eliminated instead of adding more nonsense on the pile.
"When a new system is ready it will be an easy job to sort the separated categories into the mainframe."
nope, it will be a manual job for someone to look at every single entry and choose the right releasetype.
"If they weren't separated thew would be harder to find"
nope, the info was already in the filenames - and moving those into the proper db entries would be the matter of writing a simple script.
It's not that easy. Many [easyflash] tags are still there due to the zip in the release consists of normal release, EF release and d81 etc smashed together, so you can't trust the tags. And yes: they should have their own entries, but I am tired of this now. Will focus on stock c64 releases.
And yes, Groepaz, I believe you are right, but as it looks like right now it will take a long time until someone implements your very good idea. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
then the entry is simply wrong in the first place. it doesnt change the fact that you are removing from the database, and then fixing it later will take lots of manual work thanks to that.
and most importantly - this change does _NOT_ provide any advantage over using the tags in the name. zero. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: then the entry is simply wrong in the first place. it doesnt change the fact that you are removing from the database, and then fixing it later will take lots of manual work thanks to that.
and most importantly - this change does _NOT_ provide any advantage over using the tags in the name. zero.
Took me an hour, will take another hour later then when someone fixed the system. OK with me. Call me when it's time. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
Also now you cant enter the various flags for cracks (videomode, release proper etc etc) anymore for easyflash releases....
GOOD WORK, HAS IT'S MOMENTS! |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Also now you cant enter the various flags for cracks (videomode, release proper etc etc) anymore for easyflash releases....
GOOD WORK, HAS IT'S MOMENTS!
Yes you can. Just call it a c64 crack for a while, save, and then change to EasyFlash. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
yeah how convenient!
what did this change improve exactly? so far its only worse, in every aspect >_< |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: yeah how convenient!
what did this change improve exactly? so far its only worse, in every aspect >_<
I have a theory that you need to have the last word. Lets test it. :D |
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Mr.Ammo
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Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting GroepazAlso now you cant enter the various flags for cracks (videomode, release proper etc etc) anymore for easyflash releases....
You can call Hedning once the system is fixed, to fix these entries. Shouldn't take him more than an hour. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quoting GroepazAlso now you cant enter the various flags for cracks (videomode, release proper etc etc) anymore for easyflash releases....
You can call Hedning once the system is fixed, to fix these entries. Shouldn't take him more than an hour.
Nah, should be entered just like normal. We do that with imported demos and stuff since ages anyways.
BTW. Lovely to see that you guys that edit and add so much to the database care about this. <3 Keep up uploading, Mr Ammo! |
