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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
Entries falsely marked as REU Releases
Just noticed that quite a lot of prods seem to be falsely marked as REU Releases. Has some entry type been renamed to REU Release, which could have caused this, or has someone randomly changed the type of entries? |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Yes, there was a not-so-optimal change to implement a REU Release type and now either demos/cracks which are for REU have been changed to REU Release.
About the "falsely marked as REU Releases" which in particular? |
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
Well, at least Chillout by Dekadence and JAQ by Scallop were marked and I changed them back a moment ago. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
JAQ
this was entered as REU release from the start. Nobody changed it.
Chillout
this was changed to REU release in 2007 by Rough, not recently. |
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
Was REU release actually a release type in 2002? Or is it another category renamed, which could explain the odd choice.
Anyway, just browse the REU release category, and you'll notice there's quite a few releases that are in the wrong category. |
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
And to answer my own question, it's apparently a recent category Req: REU release type |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
ok, apparently is a db fuckup. I suspect the new REU release type replaced something else, like "dentro" which was also recently removed. I have only a suspect, no proof.
Edit: yes, it definately is the case, *facepalm*
Beavis & Butthead Dentro
this for example has even Dentro in the name.
I thought that the previously "dentro" were automatically changed to One-file demo type, now we have to manually fix them all *sigh* |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
that happens when you remove something instead of flagging it obsolete - in advanced search in "release type" box you can see that "reu release" now has the id that was previously used by "c64 dentro" :) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Damn it. Good that there weren't that many releases defined as "Dentro" to begin with. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
i'd take the opportunity to remove the REU releasetype as well and put that info in tags. but what do i know :) |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Quote: Damn it. Good that there weren't that many releases defined as "Dentro" to begin with.
I already fixed 2 pages of results from advanced search, making sure they were just onefilers and not really reu rls. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: I already fixed 2 pages of results from advanced search, making sure they were just onefilers and not really reu rls.
Great! Thanx! Instead of whining and complaining this is how it should look like. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
ok, all wrong ones should be marked as one file demo now |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Quoting iAN CooGI already fixed 2 pages of results from advanced search, making sure they were just onefilers and not really reu rls. Or split the releasetype and platform into two fields. In principle the platform is of course always C64 on this database, but since there has also crept in releases for C128, DTV, REU, PC, etc., it might be time to consider a platform field. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quoting iAN CooGI already fixed 2 pages of results from advanced search, making sure they were just onefilers and not really reu rls. Or split the releasetype and platform into two fields. In principle the platform is of course always C64 on this database, but since there has also crept in releases for C128, DTV, REU, PC, etc., it might be time to consider a platform field.
We are working on this. A lot of users asked for separating the stock c64 releases (being 1531 and 1541 releases) from the non-stock ones that requires more or less obscure hw. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
Quote:We are working on this
and you wonder why i am being sarcastic. LOL |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quote:We are working on this
and you wonder why i am being sarcastic. LOL
hugs |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
\o/ |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
"it might be time to consider a platform field."
or just add the tag system. then you can add anything you can imagine. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
or you could suggest growing pigs that fly - chances are they are also working on it ;) |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting hedningWe are working on this. A lot of users asked for separating the stock c64 releases (being 1531 and 1541 releases) from the non-stock ones that requires more or less obscure hw.
I have a stock of C64s, but these stock C64s are not necessarily vanilla C64s.
Anyway... ;-)
You are already using the release type "Other Platform C64 Tool " to distinguish between software that run on vanilla hardware vs. software that need "obscure" hardware to function properly.
Now, do I understand correctly that you're going to remove all old release types for these releases and change it to "Other Platform C64 Tool"? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quoting hedningWe are working on this. A lot of users asked for separating the stock c64 releases (being 1531 and 1541 releases) from the non-stock ones that requires more or less obscure hw.
I have a stock of C64s, but these stock C64s are not necessarily vanilla C64s.
Anyway... ;-)
You are already using the release type "Other Platform C64 Tool " to distinguish between software that run on vanilla hardware vs. software that need "obscure" hardware to function properly.
Now, do I understand correctly that you're going to remove all old release types for these releases and change it to "Other Platform C64 Tool"?
No. "Other Platform C64 Tool" are tools that is run on Windows, Mac or Linux etc. Pixcen is one example, exomizer another. I guess you are asking because of the new stuff emerging for the Ultimate. Until we have a specific category, or a flag-system, I believe we have to cosider the Ultimate another platform. It's not the optimal solution, however. I would love to see a flag system instead, but that will take some time to implement, and Perff is the guy to do it, and he is not exactly coding on CSDb on a daily basis anylonger. My main goal is to minimize the "tags" added in the release name and move all of these to flags instead. |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting hedningNo. "Other Platform C64 Tool" are tools that is run on Windows, Mac or Linux etc. Pixcen is one example, exomizer another. I guess you are asking because of the new stuff emerging for the Ultimate. Until we have a specific category, or a flag-system, I believe we have to cosider the Ultimate another platform. It's not the optimal solution, however. I would love to see a flag system instead, but that will take some time to implement, and Perff is the guy to do it, and he is not exactly coding on CSDb on a daily basis anylonger. My main goal is to minimize the "tags" added in the release name and move all of these to flags instead.
How do you mean the 1541Ultimate, 1541Ultimate+, Ultimate-II and Ultimate-II Plus is a different platform? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Quote: Quoting hedningNo. "Other Platform C64 Tool" are tools that is run on Windows, Mac or Linux etc. Pixcen is one example, exomizer another. I guess you are asking because of the new stuff emerging for the Ultimate. Until we have a specific category, or a flag-system, I believe we have to cosider the Ultimate another platform. It's not the optimal solution, however. I would love to see a flag system instead, but that will take some time to implement, and Perff is the guy to do it, and he is not exactly coding on CSDb on a daily basis anylonger. My main goal is to minimize the "tags" added in the release name and move all of these to flags instead.
How do you mean the 1541Ultimate, 1541Ultimate+, Ultimate-II and Ultimate-II Plus is a different platform?
it would be neat if you could filter the different revisions, they are far from having the same features afaik ? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Quoting hedningNo. "Other Platform C64 Tool" are tools that is run on Windows, Mac or Linux etc. Pixcen is one example, exomizer another. I guess you are asking because of the new stuff emerging for the Ultimate. Until we have a specific category, or a flag-system, I believe we have to cosider the Ultimate another platform. It's not the optimal solution, however. I would love to see a flag system instead, but that will take some time to implement, and Perff is the guy to do it, and he is not exactly coding on CSDb on a daily basis anylonger. My main goal is to minimize the "tags" added in the release name and move all of these to flags instead.
How do you mean the 1541Ultimate, 1541Ultimate+, Ultimate-II and Ultimate-II Plus is a different platform?
The cartridges are addons, but the 64 Ultimate have other hw specs than a real C64, obviously, with software only working on that very hw. In a way it's more related to the DTV (which is considered a category of its own) than a original C64, as it has specific modes and perks. So: Either you follow tha logic of DTV and put the ultimate in a category of its own, or you go the Groepaz way and implement the flag system, which I think is a good idea, but I don't see that happening soon, as Perff seems a but busy. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
<Post edited by iAN CooG on 20/1-2019 17:24>
Those terms for ultimate are bbs sw and should stay like that, and I re-changed the release type for them.
The new release types are just adding a mess, they should be reverted to the actual release type demo/tool/game/crack and flags really implemented.
Other platform tool should be only for other systems. (dos/win/nix/mac/amiga)
Even SCPU and C128 should be a tag, not hiding the actual release type. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: Those terms for ultimate are bbs sw and should stay like that, and I re-changed the release type for them.
The new release types are just adding a mess, they should be reverted to the actual release type demo/tool/game/crack and flags really implemented.
Other platform tool should be only for other systems. (dos/win/nix/mac/amiga)
Even SCPU and C128 should be a tag, not hiding the actual release type.
I agree with ian here. We need that flag system implemented first, however, then kill off the categories. The logic with SCPU and DTV etc, started this, and after some user requests to better sort out EF-releases we started to implement categories like that. Looks like we should have killed off the categories instead and go for the flags. I really hope Perff have some time to do this. I will poke him. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
There should also be a tag for "Found in Cash/Triad's coll." :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
There should be also ban for people that do nothing else than trolling. Oh right, there is already, Let's try it? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
thats just cracking a joke, trolling is to deliberately annoy som1 provoking, etc imho. |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4595 |
Quote: There should also be a tag for "Found in Cash/Triad's coll." :)
Cash let me have his collection to find lost releases IF I credited him for all finds... Not that hard tribute to pay, when it's a fucking treasure chest, I'd say. Better that than to let these finds rot. Sorry if I spam. I have to. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Yes, I'm impressed with how much undiscovered stuff is found in his collection, and the effort that is done to preserve it. Sorry if my wisecrack was taken the wrong way. Keep up the good work! |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2893 |
Quoting iAN CooGThere should be also ban for people that do nothing else than trolling. Oh right, there is already, Let's try it?
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