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2017-12-14 13:43
Alias Medron

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 39
C64 Cartridge Demos

I was just wondering, are there any C64 demos made for/on Cartridge?
And if not, why not? Is it because of the 16kb that can be accessed at a time or am i missing something?
2017-12-14 13:58
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 353
The main reason, presumably, is that nobody would have spread a cartridge demo. Copying disks is easier.

One technical downside is that you can't access the vectors at fffa-ffff while the cart is mapped into memory. You have to make the kernal call your code via 314/315, and this costs many valuable cycles.
2017-12-14 14:40
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8524
then again, if you'd use ultimax mode... some interesting things could be done that wouldnt be possible without a cartridge :)
2017-12-14 14:46
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 952
Because vanilla C-64 or GTFO. :D

I mean a cartridge (= EasyFlash, realistically) gives you a lot more resources to play with, bank-switched ROM and whatnot. Some minor drawbacks don't matter much there.
2017-12-14 15:59
Alias Medron

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 39
Quote: The main reason, presumably, is that nobody would have spread a cartridge demo. Copying disks is easier.

One technical downside is that you can't access the vectors at fffa-ffff while the cart is mapped into memory. You have to make the kernal call your code via 314/315, and this costs many valuable cycles.


Spreading isn't much of an issue since there are a lot of REU demos and REU is much harder to find. It could be spread on disks with an easyflash write programm or something.

Maybe i (or someone else) should organise a "Cartridge Demo Compo" sometime :)
2017-12-14 16:38
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1602
EasyFlash demos would be cool. And everyone can get one of these easy.
2017-12-14 17:25
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1339
I vote for a ultimax mode compo. :)
2017-12-14 17:48
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8524
i'd prefer AR support over easyflash - just to remove the silly "we have lots of memory - lets play animations" shit
2017-12-14 19:14
4mat

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 44
I guess DUBCRT kind of counts being a musicdisk by sceners with demo-ish screens.
2017-12-14 19:33
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 952
Quoting 4mat
I guess DUBCRT kind of counts being a musicdisk by sceners with demo-ish screens.
Well, DUBCRT - it's a commercial product, so technically, does not matter at all who made it.
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