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PAL
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 269 |
Vice sux these days...
....I am just a lamer so bear with me... music halts, no real frame-rate - full 50 halts now, set settings resetting to no true drive.... a big chunky graphics overlay when looking at demos in full-screen... WHY IS VICE EMULATOR SUDDENLY SHITTY TO THE POINT ONE DO NOT WANT TO USE IT ANY MORE?
It was so stable and perfect before last update... what went wrong? There are so many issues now... all things bugs in all demos and playback...
Will there be a fix it all for people like me that just happen to have a greatest ASUS laptop where everything used to work but now are just total lame in every aspect and can not get it to play right, I ask because last version worked like a charm... So utterly lame update to the latest version.
Maybe it is just me... wait, our coders and everyone have same bugs... such a terrible update... if there are some special setting to be set why do not make them the same as last version? that worked all the time with all demos? |
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Tim
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 467 |
hmm,
I have several other versions (testing and such for other groupmembers) on my machines..
That said, Vice 2.4 on windows 7 (w32) is still my absolute and undisputed favorite. |
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Had a few days recently where everything slowed down on Linux, then got almost back to normal. I Also suspect Meltdown/Spectre patches. I hope it's that, and not an attack. :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839 |
Quoting Oswaldis that the linux version ? would like to have something like that for win. Who in their right mind would want a Linux desktop looking like Windows, and then the fugly classic look? :D |
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Zirias
Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 48 |
I have a strange problem with VICE 3.1 on Win10 only, works as I expect on Linux -- as my real hw is disabled atm, I have no real reference ...
Working on some code doing Raster-IRQ stuff with BASIC running, and CIA IRQ disabled so it doesn't mess with the timing (instead, one VIC IRQ per frame is dispatched to EA31). This crashed after breaking from a LOAD command and I found out the Kernal re-enables CIA IRQs in this case. To solve this, I start every ISR with a JSR to this code:
checkirq:
lda $d019
bpl resetcia
and #$f
sta $d019
rts
resetcia: lda #$7f
sta $dc0d
pla
pla
jmp $ea7e so a IRQ that doesn't come from the VIC directly re-disables the CIA IRQ and exits. When I try this in VICE 3.1 on Win10, after this routine, no IRQs are triggered any more although there were no writes to D01A and the vectors are intact :o (while it's fine with the same VICE version on linux) -- my fault or a bug in VICE?
If needed, I can create and share a small PRG that exhibits this behavior. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989 |
Quote: Quoting JackAsserAlso on MacOS High Sierra alot of applicaitons suddenly gets jerky motion, including Vice and my own apps that previously where perfectly frame synced. I wonder what the hell Apple did to fuck up the system to that point... :(
The vanilla versions of vice3.1 SDL and COCOA work just fine on my mac mini 2011 with macos high sierra. I can even run two windows next to eachother without any glitches or jerky motion.
Make sure you throw out all of your old settings.
I'll try that, thanks! |
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Zirias
Registered: Jan 2014
Posts: 48 |
Quoting ZiriasIf needed, I can create and share a small PRG that exhibits this behavior.
Trying to do this, the most simple code *doesn't* bug in VICE 3.1 on Win10 either, so it might be indeed a problem in my code, investigating this further. Still strange VICE behaves differently in the Linux version (in a 100% reproducible way)
Update: found the culprit. The kernal also potentially destroys RST8 for the IRQ condition here:
FC95 AD 11 D0 LDA $D011
FC98 09 10 ORA #$10
FC9A 8D 11 D0 STA $D011 I had all my IRQs in rasterlines with bit 8 cleared, so if this happens at a lower raster line, the machine freezes. Easily fixed now. I'm still wondering why this *always* happened on Win10 and *never* on Linux :o |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Quote: Quoting Oswaldis that the linux version ? would like to have something like that for win. Who in their right mind would want a Linux desktop looking like Windows, and then the fugly classic look? :D
guess its me, I'm old fart, I like classic win look. fuck the shiny skins, not for me.
even on win10 now I have same very slight transp fuck going on. I thought the monitor broke and has miscolorization for a aminute :) |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
Quoting Oswaldlooks like you cheated, your desktop is taller than wider. :) my max res is 1366x768, which can not host that menu without scrolling it.
that treeview mode looks cool, is that the linux version ? would like to have something like that for win.
As groepaz mentioned, the screenshot with the settings treeview is on Windows, since we're working with Gtk3 to have a portable UI, the new UI should look the same on Windows, OSX, Linux and BSD.
Of course, it being Gtk3, it'll probably not look completely native on all systems, but at least you'll have an up-to-date and better UI than the unmaintained Windows/OSX-Cocoa UI's, or the Linux Gtk2 UI for that matter.
I'm designing the UI with a screen size of 1280x768 in mind, which sometimes makes for some 'interesting' design decisions/compromises. So far, when compiling the Windows version on my laptop (1366x768) in a Win7 VM, stuff fits. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
Quote:Who in their right mind would want a Linux desktop looking like Windows, and then the fugly classic look?
i use classic w2k-server look on all my machines, all my OSs, since 15 years or so. not planning to change that either. problem? :) |
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Compyx
Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631 |
I still like how Gtk2 looked, so my Linux desktops use Mate, a Gtk3-based desktop that actually works, unlike Gnome Hell or Qt Plasma. And my Windows VM's use the W2K look.
Functionality over looks/fancy crap. |
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