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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Unban JSL 3
well I'd have liked to see what is the general opinion on JSL, also it would have been interesting to see how many want him back in here, I dont even know why he was banned , I was hoping to learn these things from the original thread. Guess noone thinks csdb is moderated by votes. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Steppe: I'm baffled to hear you want to be "deleted" from here, but if anything one just have to not log in for 6 months and his account is automatically closed. We don't ban for just closing an account, a ban must be voted and there should be a good reason for it.
I hope you've changed your mind in any case.
> people show some regret and apologize
that happens very rarely, and when happened, a unban vote decides to admit again the user. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Sure, that's what I've been told (six months no log in), but I'm glad I couldn't make it for that long without my occasional sniff of C64. :-) |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476 |
@Steppe: Welcome back! |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
Forgiving someone for past actions is a way of life.
I didn't care for too many of the negative comments on JSL's work, but isn't that what commenting is about?
I admit, I HATE when people post negative anythings about my works, and often, it will upset me to the point of a bad comment. I've learned since those days that if you release PUBLICLY, you have to accept ALL FEEDBACK, negative or positive.
Most of all, and this is where JSL has failed. The negative comments are meant as a positive from sceners on how to improve his works. He wasn't a bad artist, just his attitude towards those of us who meant nothing more than to help improve his skills.
I'd vote YES on letting him back on the "base", but with an exception... The attitude needs to go.
I know I'm not one to talk about attitude (right Jon?). Some people know how to get under my skin, but I'd like to think I've changed in that aspect. Negative comments, to me, are a way to improve skills where they need improving. If you cannot handle what someone thinks of your work(s), you shouldn't be releasing. Not everyone will like what you do, and you will always, ALWAYS, get some fool that thinks otherwise about your work. This applies outside our scene too.
I'm all for JSL being unbanned. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1370 |
Eh, the ball is pretty obviously in JSL's court on this one. |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 327 |
Quoting The PhantomForgiving someone for past actions is a way of life.
Exactly! <3 |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153 |
Hey, this is progress, letting this thread stay open (and I'm not even being sarcastic..!)
But yeah, you can't let back someone who'd screw up the database again, until you're sure they have improved their ways. Even when you feel sorry for the guy. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 421 |
Is there an option just to deny database editing? would it work? |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 548 |
I wasn't around when the troubles started, and don't know JSL, but it sounds like he hasn't accepted fault or apologised as yet... so, whether or not CSDB allows him back, I'd also question whether it's actually good for him to come back if he's not ready - and to be ready, he really needs to be at a point where he can look at people's feedback, good or bad, and not explode about it. I was going to say "get angry" but, hey, we can all do that - the difference is whether we then take that anger and try to rip up the database, right?
Letting him back without being able to make database mods would be a great step - if that functionality can be added (assuming it's not already there) .. but for his own good, he also needs to be able to control his temper. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
I am not personally risking it, I'm not here to keep watch on spoiled brats and I'm not even going to keep wild dogs on leash. I don't have time for this. Other mods can decide, you already have my NO. |
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