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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Unban JSL 3
well I'd have liked to see what is the general opinion on JSL, also it would have been interesting to see how many want him back in here, I dont even know why he was banned , I was hoping to learn these things from the original thread. Guess noone thinks csdb is moderated by votes. |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 327 |
My first thread and my intention was not to criticise the banning procedure generally.
And btw. i think honestly that the mod's do an awesome job. It's not possible to make all happy. That's out of question.
My thoughts were only:
Is it really necessary to ban people forever (permanent) before at least one temporary ban, even for 1 year?
(And i know, sometimes and we have some bad examples, it's not possible for a temporary ban) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4574 |
<Post edited by hedning on 15/8-2019 17:39>
There is no such thing as a lifelong ban. On the other hand, why let anyone in again without them showing any regrets or understanding why they were banned in the first place? What we usually get is threats and querulant demands to get in again. I think you understand why that is not helping very much. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
And when I asked you to delete my account, it wasn't possible. Now I'm stuck in here for all eternity. Nazi-Mods! ;-)
Honestly, I'm with you on this. If situations change and people show some regret and apologize, why not let them back in. But then, it's been so much more quiet in here without some people's dramas... |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132 |
Steppe: I'm baffled to hear you want to be "deleted" from here, but if anything one just have to not log in for 6 months and his account is automatically closed. We don't ban for just closing an account, a ban must be voted and there should be a good reason for it.
I hope you've changed your mind in any case.
> people show some regret and apologize
that happens very rarely, and when happened, a unban vote decides to admit again the user. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Sure, that's what I've been told (six months no log in), but I'm glad I couldn't make it for that long without my occasional sniff of C64. :-) |
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bugjam
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2476 |
@Steppe: Welcome back! |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
Forgiving someone for past actions is a way of life.
I didn't care for too many of the negative comments on JSL's work, but isn't that what commenting is about?
I admit, I HATE when people post negative anythings about my works, and often, it will upset me to the point of a bad comment. I've learned since those days that if you release PUBLICLY, you have to accept ALL FEEDBACK, negative or positive.
Most of all, and this is where JSL has failed. The negative comments are meant as a positive from sceners on how to improve his works. He wasn't a bad artist, just his attitude towards those of us who meant nothing more than to help improve his skills.
I'd vote YES on letting him back on the "base", but with an exception... The attitude needs to go.
I know I'm not one to talk about attitude (right Jon?). Some people know how to get under my skin, but I'd like to think I've changed in that aspect. Negative comments, to me, are a way to improve skills where they need improving. If you cannot handle what someone thinks of your work(s), you shouldn't be releasing. Not everyone will like what you do, and you will always, ALWAYS, get some fool that thinks otherwise about your work. This applies outside our scene too.
I'm all for JSL being unbanned. |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1370 |
Eh, the ball is pretty obviously in JSL's court on this one. |
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Shine
Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 327 |
Quoting The PhantomForgiving someone for past actions is a way of life.
Exactly! <3 |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153 |
Hey, this is progress, letting this thread stay open (and I'm not even being sarcastic..!)
But yeah, you can't let back someone who'd screw up the database again, until you're sure they have improved their ways. Even when you feel sorry for the guy. |
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