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2020-05-18 16:10
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9317
VICE threaded UI test builds

In this thread i will post test builds of the (hopefully) soon to be merged threaded ui rewrite.

Linux and OSX users can always grab the current state from dqh's git repo here: https://github.com/dqh-github/vice-experiments/tree/threaded-ui.. (make sure to checkout the "threaded-ui-exp" branch after cloning the repo)

Please test and report back positive and negative results. Especially interesting right now are rendering errors/problems and unexpected crashes. Please tell exactly what OS you are using, and what GPU.

I will keep posting new windows builds here - starting with todays: https://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/files/experimental%20..

64bit only right now - i'll have to figure out how to build proper 32bit binaries on my box (not that you should be still using a 32bit OS in 2020).
 
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2020-06-10 13:45
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1680
Quote: Apple doesn't care about cross-platform gaming and probably never will, it's pretty clear it's Metal or gtfo. They rarely break stuff intentionally at least, but neglect and death from a thousand cuts does the job just as well.

Anyway, I gave the latest Mac build a spin and it's the first one that I feel approaches something that can be used. Frame rate is smooth and stable, no obvious glitches and no crashes during (light) testing on a 2014 MacBook Pro running 10.15.5.

The only display related issue is that the cpu/fps counter updates in realtime and thus jumps around between 99.9% and 100.0% in a rather distracting manner. Nothing a smoothed out average wouldn't fix though.

The only major issue I can find is that I can't seem to get the positional keyboard layout (the only sane option) to work. Is a keymap required for that — GTK3 doesn't do keycodes? The symbolic (ew) keymap for Swedish can't type $, and the positional option is grayed out if you select it.


Yep, for me personally (which you shouldn't use as a priority of any sort) are:

* Positional keyboard working
* Proper 1351 mouse emulation (mouse capture it totally borked now on my setup)

When this is done, I can drop SDL and move to GTK for EotB related tasks.

But I'm in no way in actual need of a GTK port, it would just be a nice thing to have. And also, if it's on par and up to date with the SDL port you guys can drop the SDL port also.
2020-06-10 13:55
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9317
Regarding the keyboard, see above. I couldnt fix it even if i wanted (because my system is using german locale, and i dont have a swedish keyboard either in the first place) :) So thats something one of you has to provide :=)

Mouse emulation will be fixed properly later. We already talked about polling the inputs more often than once per frame - which is absolutely required for perfect 1351 emulation (the POT inputs sample period is 512 cycles). It shouldnt work significantly worse than in the SDL port however.

(and the SDL port will always be kept around for "lesser" systems, mobile, game cabinets, etc)
2020-06-10 14:54
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1680
Quote: Regarding the keyboard, see above. I couldnt fix it even if i wanted (because my system is using german locale, and i dont have a swedish keyboard either in the first place) :) So thats something one of you has to provide :=)

Mouse emulation will be fixed properly later. We already talked about polling the inputs more often than once per frame - which is absolutely required for perfect 1351 emulation (the POT inputs sample period is 512 cycles). It shouldnt work significantly worse than in the SDL port however.

(and the SDL port will always be kept around for "lesser" systems, mobile, game cabinets, etc)


Ahh it’s not the polling per se but rather how it grabs the pointer from the OS
2020-06-10 14:57
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9317
THAT can be probably be fixed soonish :) Probably a side effect of the UI updates :)
2020-06-10 14:57
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1680
Quote: THAT can be probably be fixed soonish :) Probably a side effect of the UI updates :)

Highly likely
2020-06-10 15:00
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1313
Quoting Groepaz
Regarding the keyboard, see above. I couldnt fix it even if i wanted (because my system is using german locale, and i dont have a swedish keyboard either in the first place) :) So thats something one of you has to provide :=)

Should we be reading that as: you want a Swedish keyboard sent to you? ;)
2020-06-10 16:00
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9317
NO :)
2020-06-10 17:13
dqh

Registered: Jun 2019
Posts: 40
JackAsser - btw you should be able to build it directly in 10.15 now.
2020-06-10 17:23
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 981
Positional keyboard layout for Swedish added here, please test: https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/patches/231/
2020-06-10 17:34
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1680
Quote: JackAsser - btw you should be able to build it directly in 10.15 now.

Ossom!! I might even have a go on fixing the mouse myself so you can focus on the important stuff. :)
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