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2020-07-12 13:51
Dymo

Registered: Jun 2016
Posts: 120
Chrome and Firefox (perhaps more) flagging *.prg's from CSDB as dangerous

Hi,

Downloading entries from here is now flagged " ... is dangerous" for some reason...
You don't even get the "keep" option, just the discard alternative...

Meh... had to go to IE for it to work..

Just sayin'..

//Dymo
2020-07-12 13:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
They are quite correct
2020-07-12 14:00
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Not long until every file that is downloaded for free and not from some corporate appstore will be flagged as "potentially dangerous".

But as for .prg from CSDb, think of it as a lamer protection.

Some people will still complain that their snakeoil protection software regards Windows tools as malware.
2020-07-12 14:12
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
ths stupid shit annoys the hell out of me..
2020-07-12 14:13
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
I use Vivaldi 3.2.1964.3 (Chromium 84.0.4147.62) and get the option to keep or discard.
This is a long standing problem created by the Chromium devs themselves.
There is a list of black/greylisted extensions in Chromium, located in the
"User Data\FileTypePolicies\*\download_file_types.pb"
I made a python script
http://iancoog.altervista.org/C/ftyped.zip
to alter this file and flag extensions as "secure" instead of "potentially dangerous" but it's from about 2-3 major chromium releases it doesn't matter anymore what this file contains, the actual list used by the engine it's packed inside the resources.pak in the application dir, and I have no way to alter it anymore.

Another good reason to stop uploading .prg files but as d64.
2020-07-12 21:27
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Bullshit, I have no such issues on Linux. .prg files are perfectly fine, as are .d64 files. Maybe tweak you adware/virus scanner on Windows?
2020-07-12 21:29
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Because your Firefox/Chrome is old =)
2020-07-12 21:49
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Nah, just installed the latest firefox from a tarball, no issues with downloading .prg files
2020-07-13 07:30
Claus_2015

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 53
AFAIK, prg is also a format for dBase scripts, which indeed have been used to spread malware. So protecting users from it is not utterly stupid. Learn configuring your browser ;-).
2020-07-13 08:27
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Quote: Bullshit, I have no such issues on Linux. .prg files are perfectly fine, as are .d64 files. Maybe tweak you adware/virus scanner on Windows?

<Post edited by iAN CooG on 13/7-2020 08:33>

It's not bs on Windows, as many people suffer from this annoyance disguised as "security feature". It's not triggered by the AVs, it's in chromium. And probably FF have a similar "feature" now.
2020-07-13 08:29
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
Quote: AFAIK, prg is also a format for dBase scripts, which indeed have been used to spread malware. So protecting users from it is not utterly stupid. Learn configuring your browser ;-).

There's nothing to configure, too bad. It's embedded in the code and not configurable. Else there would be a easy solution. Up to some month ago the only workaround was to manually edit the download_file_types.pb with an hexeditor or the script I did to flag the blacklisted extensions as secure.
Another option is of course rebuilding yourself the browser after editing the source that builds download_file_types.pb =)
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/chrome/br..
2020-07-13 08:35
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
I tried from FF updated to latest, no question asked when downloading a prg from here. Only in Vivaldi for me.
2020-07-13 08:50
Claus_2015

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 53
Quote: There's nothing to configure, too bad. It's embedded in the code and not configurable. Else there would be a easy solution. Up to some month ago the only workaround was to manually edit the download_file_types.pb with an hexeditor or the script I did to flag the blacklisted extensions as secure.
Another option is of course rebuilding yourself the browser after editing the source that builds download_file_types.pb =)
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/chrome/br..


Did not try, but shouldn't Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Safe Browsing allow you to switch off protection?
2020-07-13 09:06
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
it was already suggested on the Vivaldi forum and mine it's already set off, so it's not changing anything.
2020-07-13 10:44
Claus_2015

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 53
Ok, then I take it back and agree that this is a stupid development in browser security... :-/
2020-07-14 13:34
grip

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 8
In Firefox: Open Settings, click "Privacy & security", scroll down to "Deceptive Content and Dangerous Software Protection", uncheck "Block dangerous downloads". (Or just search for "dangerous" in the Settings search box).

Should fix the problem.

Edit: Incidentally, there are block lists issued by Google which I'm sure Vivaldi and perhaps Firefox (with default settings) honour as well. That was what led to the pouet.net outage a few weeks back.

My humble suggestion to all C64 hackers interested in a modicum of privacy and online freedom would be to choose any browser other than a Chromium-based one, and ideally stop using Google services altogether.
2020-07-14 15:11
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Don't forget to complain about it on Facebook :)
2020-07-14 16:02
grip

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 8
Quote: Don't forget to complain about it on Facebook :)

I'm sure someone with an account there is already doing that.
2020-07-14 16:33
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3132
2020-07-14 18:58
grip

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 8
Quoting iAN CooG
Funny meme


:D

Was that before or after writing a python script trying to patch away the stupidity they inflict on their users?
2020-07-17 14:03
Dymo

Registered: Jun 2016
Posts: 120
Well, file-downloads seems to be working again for me
atleast... (using chrome) :)
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