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2020-10-28 12:39
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
ICC 2020 with 16k & 4k or 16k only again?

How about ICC 2020 with the same rules as 2019?
Intro Creation Competition 2019

4k category was a great success last time but it cut off the amount of 16k entries. It may be that the 4k is too hard or the possibilities of that limit were already exploited by last time's entries.

What do you think?
2020-10-28 12:53
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
I have an almost finished 4K demo (80-ish per cent done) that was supposed to enter last year's ICC. Alas, i ran out of time.

As the restrictions of ICC are so unique, it would be an utter waste to finish that thing and enter it anywhere else.

So yes, i'm strongly FOR a 4K section of another ICC instalment.

And last years' entries did not nearly exploit the limits of the 4K format, plus there were more 4K than 16K entries, so i goess "too hard" is ruled out as well. =)
2020-10-28 13:03
Shine

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 327
Event id #2889 : Intro Creation Competition 2019
Quoting Didi
Sorry for the delay. Spent a whole week on illness in between. Real life sucks sometimes.
I did not forget about it, be sure. Full results will come and later on the usual collections, too.

Quoting Didi
Postponed due to private issues. It will come, but I don't know when.

What about the promised collection?
2020-10-28 13:08
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting Shine
Event id #2889 : Intro Creation Competition 2019
Quoting Didi
Sorry for the delay. Spent a whole week on illness in between. Real life sucks sometimes.
I did not forget about it, be sure. Full results will come and later on the usual collections, too.

Quoting Didi
Postponed due to private issues. It will come, but I don't know when.

What about the promised collection?
Indeed, that one should come out before another ICC.
2020-10-28 13:38
Smasher

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512
my public vote: ICC2020 with 2019 rules
2020-10-28 14:11
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
4K is 4x better than 16K ^^

How about adding a 2K and 1K section?

Gonna compete anyway, but think 16K only (which basically means no meaningful restriction at all) would be the worst choicse.
2020-10-28 14:35
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting TheRyk
16K only (which basically means no meaningful restriction at all)
Perhaps, but i wouldn't want to miss gems like Streetrunner or Stomp Intro (both hardly doable in 4K).
2020-10-28 14:46
MCM

Registered: Apr 2018
Posts: 21
I would like to see some nice 4k plus some real cool 16k again. A go from me for ICC 2019 with same rules.
2020-10-28 15:45
Angel of Death

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 210
Oh, heck!
I am so not inspired this year... :\
But, anyway, I personally vote for either 4K combined with 16K or just 8K again.
I seem to work best with some tough restrictions and deadlines. ;)
2020-10-29 15:18
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
I could certainly go for some 4K magic again.
2020-10-29 16:59
Golara
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2018
Posts: 212
I'd like both categories like last year
2020-10-29 17:02
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Quoting Krill
Quoting Shine
Event id #2889 : Intro Creation Competition 2019
Quoting Didi
Sorry for the delay. Spent a whole week on illness in between. Real life sucks sometimes.
I did not forget about it, be sure. Full results will come and later on the usual collections, too.

Quoting Didi
Postponed due to private issues. It will come, but I don't know when.

What about the promised collection?
Indeed, that one should come out before another ICC.

+1
2020-10-29 18:04
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Quoting Groepaz
Quoting Krill
Quoting Shine
Event id #2889 : Intro Creation Competition 2019
Quoting Didi
Sorry for the delay. Spent a whole week on illness in between. Real life sucks sometimes.
I did not forget about it, be sure. Full results will come and later on the usual collections, too.

Quoting Didi
Postponed due to private issues. It will come, but I don't know when.

What about the promised collection?
Indeed, that one should come out before another ICC.

+1

+1
2020-10-29 20:16
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 553
If we can have a 64k intro category, I’m in.

I’m all about unrolling code and huge tables of precalculated animation. With it, I’m lost.
2020-10-29 20:39
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
64k Intro? Thats just silly. Even 16k is excessive already.
2020-10-29 20:55
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
Working on the collection(s) but uncertain that they will be released before compo starts. But probably before it ends. ;-)
2020-10-29 22:27
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting Raistlin
If we can have a 64k intro category, I’m in.

I’m all about unrolling code and huge tables of precalculated animation. With it, I’m lost.
Quoting Groepaz
64k Intro? Thats just silly. Even 16k is excessive already.
What Groepaz said.

Really, just enter any of the regular executable size-restricted (not run-time memory size-restricted*) compos, and all the RAM is yours.

But then, we do need more worthy one-filed demos to continue the tradition of Dawnfall and One-Der (but releases like those can enter any regular demo compo without being ashamed of anything).

* This is the main unique limitation i mentioned in the second post of this thread.
2020-10-29 22:52
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Last year's rules were perfect! <3
2020-10-30 06:29
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 553
Quote: 64k Intro? Thats just silly. Even 16k is excessive already.

Sorry, I was being sarcastic ;-)

The general rule when English people talk is “it’s probably sarcasm”.
2020-10-30 07:26
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Quoting Raistlin
The general rule when English people talk is “it’s probably sarcasm”.
I'm sure there's a Brexit joke in there, somewhere.
2020-10-30 12:34
Golara
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2018
Posts: 212
Quote: Quoting Raistlin
The general rule when English people talk is “it’s probably sarcasm”.
I'm sure there's a Brexit joke in there, somewhere.


there was but it left
2020-10-30 13:34
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Quoting Golara
there was but it left


OMG, burn! 🤣🤣🤣
2020-10-30 16:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting Golara
there was but it left


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! <3
2020-10-30 23:11
zzarko

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 66
Here is quick'n'dirty CRT compilation of ICC 2019 intros:

http://8bitchip.info/oub/Commodore/CSDB_ICC_2019.crt

(hope the link works and all entries also...)
2020-10-31 01:42
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1821
I am sure that Didi's collection jumps back to the menu whenever space was hit, hm?
Whats holding you back anyhow?
2020-10-31 06:29
zzarko

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 66
Quoting Count Zero
I am sure that Didi's collection jumps back to the menu whenever space was hit, hm?
Whats holding you back anyhow?
As in Didi's case, mostly time. I have more that 10 soldering-related projects laying around (actually in one big box) and several retro computers that need various fixing that wait for it also :) And, I'm not Didi nor I have his knowledge to make a really great menu atm.

All that is needed in this compilation for return to menu is JMP $FCE2 (with ROMs enabled) after space is pressed. I could start to slowly modify one by one, but it will take good ol' time :)
2020-12-10 15:04
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
Collection will hopefully done before ICC 2020 ends. Usually I do a bit more than just exchanging the JMP $FCE2 e.g. I don't like exits with blue JSR $FF5B flashes in a collection, so I fix that and other minor stuff before linking.
2020-12-10 15:10
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108
Quote:
Collection will hopefully done before ICC 2020 ends

Are you sure ICC 2020 will start before 2020 ends?
2020-12-10 15:40
oziphantom

Registered: Oct 2014
Posts: 478
If you think 4K is "mined", why not allow C128 4K, mix it up a bit. The 128 could give you a "bit more" or make things that where not possible before possible. (and cause some fun rule bending ;) )
2020-12-10 20:46
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2062
I think going on Didi's nerves with "You may not launch Compo before linking/releasing last compo's results" was not the best idea in the first place.
2020-12-10 21:31
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243
not the best idea, but honest :>
2020-12-10 22:20
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
ICC 2019 results were already published long ago: Intro Creation Competition 2019

What's open is the results collection(s). Hopefuilly it will be ready before ICC 2020 ends. I'll try.

And here is what you were waiting for:
Intro Creation Competition 2020

So go for it!!! Create! Create! Create!
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