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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Small Filebrowser with fastloader for Pi1541
Hello all!
Since I'm using my Handheld 64 with Pi1541 and I am neither willing to JiffyDOS it nor have a utility cart plugged in at all times, I am wondering why nobody married the Pi1541 FB64 (the modded one from the Pi1541-homepage) with a fast and small software fastloader such as "25x Turbo" (25 X Turbo) to include that in the FB64 binary and run it just before loading whatever is chosen to load from FB64. There really is no need to use slooooow ROM loading a la SD2IEC when the Pi1541 can handle fast loaders, is there?
Now, while we're at it, adding a simple "N:Newdisk" DOS command feature to create and mount new .d64s right in FB64 (default behaviour when it's in SD2IEC mode!) would seem like a really useful addition, too, and maybe possibly delete and rename, too!...
Any takers here? ;-) I tried to convince a few people like Bitbreaker, GRG and FieserWolf to do it, but that didn't go anywhere because neither of them have a Pi1541....
P.S: "Dir Plus" from boray.se actually does the .d64 creation, rename and delete and even move on Pi1541, but unfortunately not the speedloader bit. Also it's like 100 blocks big, so utterly unuseable as an FB64 alternative!... |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Quote: Did you guys totally miss the part where I said I do *not* want a jiffydos or cartridge solution? 8)
why not ? there are simple solutions to your problem, but you really want a complicated one that doesnt even exist.
also pi64 is an 1541emulator I guess, now hacking that how will give you the c64 side loader ? |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: why not ? there are simple solutions to your problem, but you really want a complicated one that doesnt even exist.
also pi64 is an 1541emulator I guess, now hacking that how will give you the c64 side loader ?
hm. that would be the easiest - if it works and neither Pi1541 nor FB64 kill their respective parts of the fastloader.
I doubt it, but I shall try..
Since the Pi1541 FB64 has already been specially modded to work on Pi1541 i don't care all that much what best practice for a filebrowser would be.. |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: why not ? there are simple solutions to your problem, but you really want a complicated one that doesnt even exist.
also pi64 is an 1541emulator I guess, now hacking that how will give you the c64 side loader ?
just wondering: What would mr. transwarp recommend as a small fast software fastloader that can load large onefilers? 8) I find it hard to believe that in light of superfast modern loaders a program from 1986 like 25x Turbo is still the best choice!.. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839 |
Mafiosino Trackloader V2.1 is the current reference for that, perhaps. :)
(Small and fast do somewhat contradict, though.) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: Mafiosino Trackloader V2.1 is the current reference for that, perhaps. :)
(Small and fast do somewhat contradict, though.)
Thanks, will try out that one as well with FB64.. How big is it and how fast? Loadable Mem range? I know it's somewhat of a contradiction, but 25x Turbo is VERY fast and very small, so seems to be possible! ;-) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839 |
Quoting DeeKay25x Turbo is VERY fast and very small Well, if it fits your bill, why search further? :)
Remind me to add that standard-format fallback fastloader to Transwarp some day, as planned, could come out somewhere around 25-30x. =) |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
Quote: Quoting DeeKay25x Turbo is VERY fast and very small Well, if it fits your bill, why search further? :)
Remind me to add that standard-format fallback fastloader to Transwarp some day, as planned, could come out somewhere around 25-30x. =)
Well, I thought with the insane advances we've in the past decade regarding loaders, I thought that sth from 1986 would be just as outdated as, say, the sample playback from back in those days! 8)
Yes, please do add the fallback loader to transwarp! And please do make a small standalone version of it, too, without the transwarp parts! ;-D
Getting actual 25-30x would be super sweet, cause while it's pretty fast, the 25x/30x Turbo thing isn't actually THAT fast!.. |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839 |
Quoting DeeKayWell, I thought with the insane advances we've in the past decade regarding loaders, I thought that sth from 1986 would be just as outdated as, say, the sample playback from back in those days! 8) Nah, the actual advances aren't that much. :) While the SID thingies were entirely new inventions/discoveries, the drive stuff was more like incremental updates and combining all tricks in the book for once. Some new things, too, of course, but with modest overall impact.
Quoting DeeKayYes, please do add the fallback loader to transwarp! And please do make a small standalone version of it, too, without the transwarp parts! ;-D No such plans for the latter, actually. Why is "smallness" so important? Is it just a proxy for "quick boot-time" or do you really need the space (on disk)? Transwarp currently boots in 1.7-1.9 seconds, and that's for 32 blocks. |
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DeeKay
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 362 |
For something that is loaded with ROM routines always on start before anything else, size matters a lot. If I need to wait 15 seconds until an 8kb loader loads, it kinda defeats the purpose of having a fastloader! ;-) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839 |
Quoting DeeKayFor something that is loaded with ROM routines always on start before anything else, size matters a lot. If I need to wait 15 seconds until an 8kb loader loads, it kinda defeats the purpose of having a fastloader! ;-) As i said, those 8 KB load in under 2 seconds. There's a small boot-fastloader in the first 2 of those 32 blocks. =) |
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