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2008-10-23 02:50
Kickback

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 77
Sprites over FLI

Yes I'm pretty sure this has been asked a couple of times already. But for the record, how many sprites can I display per FLI line?

Also how many can I display per FLI line with sideborders open? I know there is some talks about every other line, so is it possible to open everyline?

And last but not least is it possible to add more then one color to the 3 chars you loose on each side? I know in Deus Ex Machine it had (looked) more then one color on the sides there?

Yup 1 question turns in to 3, well that the Kickback way LOL!

Thanks
James
 
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2010-03-23 05:42
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1780
Quoting Copyfault
Please note that this Deus ex Machina-all border pic with this water girl is _not_ FLI but "just" plain Multicolour plus the already mentioned additional sprites in SB and LB.
...plus interlace ;-)
2010-03-24 22:07
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 313
@Copyfault

Thanks a lot for pointing me at the right direction, somehow totally missed X-FLI and that's exactly what I am after! :) I have contacted Dane to get the routine explained.

The reason for it is that I've got an idea for yet another graphics mode, you'll get to know if first if I succeed :)
2019-02-08 21:19
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 313
Resurrecting the thread – can anyone point to Ninja's 6 sprites over FLI timer-based routine? It is "opensourced" AFAIR, or? :D
2019-02-08 21:40
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 4365
you can fin it in darwin / dreams
2019-02-08 21:44
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 9033
The "source" of the important part is in the appendix of No More Secrets V0.93

There's no politically correct term for 'fucking idiot'.
2019-02-08 22:57
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 313
Quote: The "source" of the important part is in the appendix of No More Secrets V0.93

There's no politically correct term for 'fucking idiot'.


Thanks! Darwin is epic. There's was also another demo with 6 multiplexed sprites over FLI, Bruce Lee pic with trees over it, or?
2019-02-09 09:56
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 901
I keep forgetting that Ninja's method involves using RMW instructions/cycle stealing to get more than 8 cycles per line.
2019-02-09 10:47
Copyfault

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 251
This uber-beautiful routine alone should give Ninja a Top10 rank in the coder's chart. Wondering if it will ever be "optimized"...

A good opportunity to remind everyone of the UFLIMAX-hype that was going on 10+ years (ahhh, time runs) back:
impossibility level 1 * Try to make 6 Sprites over FLI in *every* rasterline over the full screen range (full width & 200 lines)
impossibility level 2 * The level 1 task *interlaced*

@Digger: I only know this one picture in Darwin with 6 Sprites over full-width FLI. If(!) there's another I'd really like to see it. Do you remember who made it? I'm pretty sure it's not by Ninja.
2019-02-09 21:09
Digger

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 313
@CF: I thought about Still Ready (https://youtu.be/yg0CUKh-dgQ?t=123) or Cauldron 101% +++, but actually it's chunky FLI and the sign/trees are not even sprites (but $d800 bits).
2019-02-10 14:43
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 842
I only got to 121 lines fully covered If I remember correctly..
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