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ZZAP69
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 30 |
Best LCD TV-set for the C64?
Most people I've talked to, doesn't recommend a LCD TV as a C64 monitor, but my question is: which is the best one? I'm looking forward to a slick C64 setup with 1541U and a very portable monitor. :D
Tobias |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Folks, I'd like to compare some frontal detail shots. Would anyone mind taking some and upload them somewhere? Gonna do so myself tomorrow evening. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
http://www.lg.com/uk/it-products/monitors/LG-lcd-monitor-M227WD..
anyone met this one ? seems to have a game mode someone suggested :) |
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booker
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Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 333 |
Game mode, movie mode ect. usually means factory presets for brigtness/contrast/gamma etc. And I wouldn't expect any of modern LCD/LED/Plasma TVs to not have the interlace compensation for AV/S-video (unless clearly stated in the specs)....wich simply means all interlaced gfx modes looks like badly done drunken NUFLI.
Worst thing is, you can't disable it... |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
"Some LCDs have a setting called "Game Mode", which typically disables deinterlacing and other image "enhancements" that interferes with game consoles" |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Mine also has a "game mode". Doesn't do shit except to have shitty colour presets and it's said to reduce latency by some ms. Apart from that the game mode looks the same as in cinema mode or in normal mode. ;-) |
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A Life in Hell
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 204 |
One other option that I discovered recently, is instead of actually trying to get your TV to understand the c64's input signal, instead using an external upscaler for the c64 - I bought one online earlier this month (I'm in the USA at the moment, and TV's that do PAL natively here seem as rare as flying elephants). The one I bnought was $80, and upscales the PAL signal to a 720p HDMI output, whcih the TV then won't actually try and fix further (unlike a 576i signal, whcih of course it will). I havn't tried this on a 50hz output tho, but it actually does a really good job of doing 50hz -> 60hz conversation as well (using the standard "n% frame 1, n% frame 2" method of doing so).
I'll post something about how it works PAL -> PAL when I get back home in a couple of weeks. But if someone else has a similar device, maybe they can comment on this :). I
I remmeber also a long time ago, Ray/Unreal used a PAL -> VGA convertor that worked quite well, and a lot of TVs disable processing on their VGA ports. however, it seems some newer TVs are actually blocking 50hz on the VGA in (particularly the samsung ones, which is a pain for me since my PVR outputs vga 50hz ;)) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
yup, I have found its manual, game mode is just a stupid preset.
btw what is picture phase ? the manual says it may be adjusted when using "external equipment", also "auto configure" will adjust phase&clock(&other), does that it mean it can fine adjust to 50.12 hz ?:D |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055 |
Specs and manuals unfortunately don't tell you what you need. You have to test it to see how it handles the signal from a C64 (which is HORRIBLY out of spec :). |
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booker
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Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 333 |
Quoting Oswald"Some LCDs have a setting called "Game Mode", which typically disables deinterlacing and other image "enhancements" that interferes with game consoles"
Hm. Will check that with my Panasonic Plasma.
As to clock/phase i don't think it will say Hz. Usually you just get a bar. Though it may though help to reduce some interference if there would be any (I didn't notice for C64). In normal LCD monitors it was helping for tuning of the vga signal whenever the proportions of small fonts were visually different in each row/column of text, say in cmdline or putty.. but that made sense fo resolutions like 1240x1024. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017 |
Quote: Specs and manuals unfortunately don't tell you what you need. You have to test it to see how it handles the signal from a C64 (which is HORRIBLY out of spec :).
I will feel really stupid running around with a c64 in shops bugging clerks :)
(note to myself: same but better sound LG M2294D-PZ) |
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