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tlr
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1714 |
Help test x64sc, the next generation x64.
We've spent a month and a half rewriting x64 into x64sc and would like to have some feedback.
Please test this with as many things as you can and report any emulation bugs you find in here or alternatively on #vice-dev @ freenode.net.
Let's bring VICE from the 90's into the modern age!
Good:
- emulator rewritten, more accurate
- models:
Breadbox (default) x64sc -VICIImodel 0 -ciamodel 0 -gluelogictype 0
C64C x64sc -VICIImodel 1 -ciamodel 1 -gluelogictype 1
C128-ish x64sc -VICIImodel 1 -ciamodel 1 -gluelogictype 0 Bad:
- slow (will be faster)
- possible regressions, please test
- no NTSC (yet)
- no REU (yet)
- no snapshots (yet)
- mystery drive bug (disable virtual device traps)
- GUI not yet updated
Win32 binary: x64sc-r22294-win32.zip
Source code (subversion repository):
svn co https://vice-emu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vice-emu/branches/..
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
does it work on the real thing then? :) |
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ϵʟʞ
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 26 |
Sorry but I couldn´t test it on real machine :) |
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ϵʟʞ
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 26 |
Aha :) Problem solved :o)
It is because of the emulation of joystick. The problem is that the game didn´t count with firing and have both the directions holding - as it is possible in emulation yet. I think so it is the bug in emulator :) that it is possible to have the both the dirrections of joystick holding together just that is on real joystick impossible :) |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055 |
Actually, it's uncommon but perfectly possible on real hardware. I'm sure there were cheap joysticks where the switches stuck. If you want to reproduce, just open a WICO joystick and squeeze the leaf switches. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
a) yes its very possible on the real thing. on many if you press down the stick into the base, you can easily close opposite switches.
b) if that happens in vice, you have configured it to allow it. in the joystick settings there is "allow opposite directions" - disable it (which is also the default). |
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ϵʟʞ
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 26 |
Okay - sorry - you are right! It helped .)
But the behavior is then useless. If you are holding fire and go right then press left still holding right and fire robo turns left, but when you release the button left still holding right and fire robo doesn´t turn right and you have to press it again.. This is useless if you are playing games like this. I like the CCS64 behavior, it works perfectly! Try the differences :) This is why I don´t like VICE and because of the terrible "monitor". :( |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
for playing games i just use my c64. or at least a real joystick.... no problems then whatsoever. (and ccs was cool in 1996, not so much today) |
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ϵʟʞ
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 26 |
Not exactly the true :) and it is not an argument why it works wrong. I think every emulator has its own.. If the programmers they coding them should learn together it does exist the perfect emulator yet. But - even the VICE is very advanced, it has a long way to perfection :o) The cracked things works right but the originals in G64 or NIB format don´t work right at all. Some games don´t load well. NIB can be only used in new german MICRO64 which has the best drive emulation I have ever seen. :) So I think it has not as perfect emulation for example of 1541 drive even it has many settings there then e.g. old CCS64 even if it is the obsolete thing yet as you already said. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11108 |
Quote:The cracked things works right but the originals in G64 or NIB format don´t work right at all. Some games don´t load well. NIB can be only used in new german MICRO64 which has the best drive emulation I have ever seen. :)
the patch from bero (micro64) which fixes all that is about to be merged into trunk this night - it actually beats hoxs64 in drive emulation now =P |
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ϵʟʞ
Registered: May 2012
Posts: 26 |
Great! WOW! Oh - then - it could happen to be my favorite again :o)
Please, do something with the joystick then and - I think it should be nice to extract the drive sound from the exe and put it somewhere to make exe smaller and to be possible to change in case someone have better :) |
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