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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
The voting system is completely retarded
I just can't wrap my head around this unmitigated, pure crap we use for voting. Here's a situation where I actually have to vote waaaay lower than it deserves, in order to increase a release's rating.
This is simply ridiculous.
"Hey, this release is really cool, I'll give it a tenner."
"WTF, the rating got lower?!? Ok, maybe it counts as an illicit upvote and it is filtered with some clever algorythm, let's go with 9 then."
"Damn, now it's way lower than it would be without my vote. Maybe an 8 will help?"
"Nah, this is getting worse, but let's see what happens if I vote with a 7."
"Shit, still no good, I'll jump to an ever lower number just for the sake of experiencing more of this shit."
"Oh great, now we're getting somewhere, one more try."
"YEY! I love this release, so it will get a 6 from me." |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
I recall uploading a bunch of FOE demos some years ago, and in the "top group" section, FOE was listed as #3, with a 9.0 rating. This was back in 2006.
I took a snapshot when I noticed it, but have no idea how to upload a photo here. If you want to see that image, just ask and I can email it to you.
Here's a link to the image :)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Wtkd0uN5wy8qI4j_sSSFxfFVL1qjr.. |
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GH
Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 77 |
Haha anonymous voting cowards are Heros these days...
To me anonymous votes shouldn't be counted at all..
Secondly, we can also have a good laugh when having a look at all the creative fake name accounts on here... |
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Snabel
Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 24 |
Fwiw i am with Mr. Bird on this one. What is the meaning of having downvote safety features if it breaks the voting system anyways? Just let ppl vote, calculate average and have a cold beer.
We all know when namevoting or downvoting is happening. It makes no sense to hide that fact from the mob, and especially not by obfuscating the result with obscene algorithms :D |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3047 |
Yes I sometimes remove my vote, when it decreases the score. I suppose, this is not an intended user behaviour.
My suggestions: 1. Only releases with 50 and more votes should have calculated rating displayed, or 2. the recount of new rating should be made every 5 votes (so results of manipulation won't be visible immediately and thus giving less chances for manipulator to manipulate ;-). Or both. 3. The releases with less than 50 votes should have only Who vote what displayed. |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
@Creamonimo: a quite huge percent of the releases or people wouldn't show up on the charts in that case.
Maybe it would work on the demo charts, but still, 50 is a very high number which is usually achieved during months, if not years.
Also, this would render impossible all those small internal compos which rely on CSDb's ratings this or another way.
The current system was an absolutely unfit answer to the rampart downvoting issue we had in the early days of this site, and it is based on IMDb, where it works because they have hundreds and thousands of votes for even the most trivial "releases". Here, a release or a person will get more than 30-40 votes only if they stand out from the crowd in some way, e. g. if they're particularly popular/good/bad/controversial.
We have about 0-15 votes for most of the stuff here, where a distributed rating system is overambitious and doesn't solve anything at all. It even makes things worse, as it's displaying inaccurate and confusing figures. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
so you ABuse the voting system to increase the release's rating and not to display your opinion about it. unanonymous upvota coward!
btw whats so super cool in this release ? removing every 2nd column from the system front is super easy. then claiming its a new screenmode, when it isnt? have you tried to run it and check what it really does? :) |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quoting Oswaldso you ABuse the voting system to increase the release's rating and not to display your opinion about it. unanonymous upvota coward! Calm your tits, Oswald. I just illustrated the stupidity of the voting system. Changed back my vote to 10 after that.
Quoting Oswaldbtw whats so super cool in this release ? removing every 2nd column from the system front is super easy. then claiming its a new screenmode, when it isnt? have you tried to run it and check what it really does? :) I just like it, it's my favorite from the compo. I know shit about coding, it's just appealing to me, the cute little flickering fonts increased my dopamine level and that's about it. I'm pretty sure that you have high opinion of some graphics which were easier to make than pushing out a fart in the wind. We all have different perspectives depending on our frames of reference. And this topic isn't about the release anyway. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
so as a graphic artist your favourite is the one which removes every 2nd column, and displays that with a 25hz flicker ? I'm shockad man ! :D |
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Peacemaker
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243 |
remove the anonymous voting and improve the system. cant be sooo difficult ;) |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting קєคςє๓คкєгremove the anonymous voting and improve the system. cant be sooo difficult ;)
Please look at it this way: Non-anonymous voting encourages the average person to vote what is socially desirable / acceptable. People need to be given the freedom to vote whatever they want without the possibility of repercussions.
Dishonesty (also in voting) is almost always caused by a conflict of interest. |
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