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2016-12-12 00:26
pepto
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colodore is the new pepto

Hey guys, I remeasured the video-signals of my VIC-II's and slightly updated my 15 year old attempt at calculating an rgb-clone. While at it, I also measured VIC & TED and made a little website about it, that allows you to adjust brightness, contrast and saturation as you like and then save your own custom palette to a png-file.

http://www.colodore.com


I took extra care to make sure, that the brightness, contrast and saturation sliders behave the same way as my 1084s.

While closely comparing my LCD to the 1084s, I found that making the transparency of scanlines dependent on YUV's Y (so they are less visible for brighter colors) looked a lot more like the real thing. I also noticed that the phase-shift on odd-lines happens for YUV's V only and there's even a name for it in video-lingua: hanover bars.

After implementing this, I'm happy to say that the images on my LCD and 1084s are remarkably close.


I will write a more detailed article about it in January, but seriously need a christmas-break first...

Cheers,
pepto
 
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2016-12-12 13:08
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
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Can i ask for an upload function for own .prgs to check the boob compatibility? :-D Also: Why no NUFLI?
2016-12-12 14:13
Carrion

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Posts: 317
Quote: Can i ask for an upload function for own .prgs to check the boob compatibility? :-D Also: Why no NUFLI?

well. DK's Deus Ex Machine is probably NUFLI because of no Flixor.
If not then pls change the screenshot to proper one ;)
2016-12-12 15:04
pepto
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Quote: Can i ask for an upload function for own .prgs to check the boob compatibility? :-D Also: Why no NUFLI?

...boob compatibility sure sounds like a crowdpleaser, noted... ;o)

I picked some of my fav "recent" pics from artists whose work I admire... didn't really look at the formats they were done in...
2016-12-12 21:58
Mirage

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 113
Nice to see more progress in this area. Thank you!
2016-12-13 10:36
saimo

Registered: Aug 2009
Posts: 36
This is so utterly cool. Many thanks for the great effort, pepto!
Be aware that you just made me spend a whole night remapping *all* the graphics I ever produced (admittedly not much, but some were a real pain) - after, of course, updating the VICE, Personal Paint, and Gimp palettes, and my own custom conversion tools. (I shiver at the thought of when v2 will be out.)
2016-12-13 13:43
pepto
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Thanks for the kind words! :)

It runs completely client-side btw. (even creating the png-files), so BitBreaker - if you want to check boob-compatibility, you could just put any pixels into images.js locally and drag the index.html into your browser-window...

http://www.colodore.com/colodore_v1.zip


Images are just base64 encoded streams of palette indices (4 bits per pixel for VIC and VIC II, 8 bits for TED) in either 160 or 320 pixels width and for 200 lines.
2016-12-13 13:44
STE'86

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 274
On behalf of all the oldschool artists who have ever crossed swords with the "palette mafia" on here...

"WE TOLD YOU SO!"

sometimes I think there may be a God afterall.
2016-12-13 16:22
MagerValp

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2016-12-13 17:14
pepto
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Well, you could crank up brightness & contrast and turn off the scanlines and colodore would look a lot more like ste... :)
2016-12-13 17:22
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
'Fire' by Joe, 'Still Waiting' by Carrion:
left PEPTO
right COLODORE (new vic with 50% saturation)


'Deadlock Loader' by Robin Levy:
top left PEPTO
down left STE'86
top right COLODORE (new vic with 50% saturation)
middle right COLODORE (new vic with 70% saturation)
down right COLODORE (old vic with 70% saturation)
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