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2015-09-11 09:26
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 77
SID Recognizer plugin for VICE?

Sorry if this already exists - but if it doesn't, I think it would be neat to have a "plugin" or extension to VICE that would automatically detect the currently playing SID and display its composer in the status bar. Would such an extension make sense?
2015-09-11 10:21
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3186
SID Known V1.10
no need to reinvent the wheel i guess
2015-09-11 10:40
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 77
Well, I know this tool does the job of identifying SIDs, but it runs outside the emulator. The steps involved identifying a certain SID in a demo or game are too many. Unless I missed something? Basically what I thought of was exactly this tool, integrated in VICE and automatically displaying which SID is currently being played.
2015-09-11 12:37
Isildur

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 275
@ThunderBlade, brilliant idea!
+1 thumb up.
2015-09-13 09:21
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
Yeah, why even fix the GUI if you can add more features!
2015-09-13 09:50
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2218
In the few cases in which users don't recognize a tune but wanna know which it is, they should no shun using Sidknown, it's a great tool.

Quote:
runs outside the emulator

As do plenty of other things :) An emulator is not an all-in-one-device for whatever has to do with C64.

I don't think it's realistic to integrate such functions in WinVICE, since an emulator's job is mostly emulation, that's what it's for and enhancing emulation is what VICE team's focus is/should be.

Maybe some kinda GUI/frontend for SIDKnown would make it more handy/appealing to more users. However, ppl learned how to use .BATches for Exomizer and other tools as well and I haven't read any complaints about that.
2015-09-13 09:53
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
it pretty much boils down to "the total number of people willing to help with winvice is zero". and we will not think about adding new features of any kind until at least most known bugs/problems are fixed.
2015-09-13 10:39
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160
From a technical viewpoint it would need to watch for SID register writes, check where in the memory those are coming from, then run a compare of the memory area against a SID database?

That sounds more complicated (has to run in a background thread to not bog down the actual emulation) than being just able to run against a file like SIDKnown, and also more errorprone. Sometimes the SID rip no longer corresponds to what is actually in the C64 memory, for example when a multi-load game's tunes are condensed into one SID file.
2015-09-13 11:40
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424
It'll probably work better if you build something like Shazam with frequency-domain finger prints of all SIDs in HVSC.
2015-09-13 12:13
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 479
No integrated SID identification, thanks. I still can't read my e-mails using VICE either.
2015-09-13 13:30
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547
I also vote for NO sid recognizer in VICE.. I can't see why it would be important.
 
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