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2013-02-05 21:29
grasstust

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43
What's stopping someone from creating a fake account for downvoting?

I just don't get why people are allowed to vote anonymously...
What's stopping me then, from making a new fake account just
for down (or up)-voting someone?

I think this happened to Offence's Trick and Treat. Somebody just
made a fake account and voted 1 and 2. And it just fell from top 10 to
below 70.

I have never seen a downvoter voting with a handle, they're all anonymous...
 
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2013-02-09 17:36
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
"I submited an idea to the admin about a better voting system to avoid anti-voting."
sorry to say, so did about every other user already - most of which think they had a better idea than you, or us. (and you got a reply from me personally, remember? =P)

and what fierman said.
2013-02-09 17:44
grasstust

Registered: Apr 2007
Posts: 43
So... If you think something is wrong, don't try to change it, just stay away? I respect that this can be some people's opinion, but I for one will try to change something when I think it doesn't work or is wrong. I do see that there's little that can be done here, though.
2013-02-09 18:08
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
if there is a problem with the voting then it is quantity. adjusting the rating by a single vote i'd say there are too few people involved.
2013-02-09 18:23
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
"if there is a problem with the voting then it is quantity."

THIS is what you need to change grasstust. there is no alternative.
2013-02-09 21:23
Zaz
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 33
Make the raw vote data easily downloadable. Then everybody can experiment with alternative weighting strategies to their heart's content, and publish the results wherever they like.
2013-02-09 22:39
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
and direct all "look how MY method works tons better than YOURS, now install it !" requests to Zaz =P
2013-02-10 01:10
Zaz
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 33
Quote: and direct all "look how MY method works tons better than YOURS, now install it !" requests to Zaz =P

Sure, I'll set up a special account for that purpose and pipe the input to one of my UNIX devices :)
2013-02-10 09:34
Peacemaker

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 243
groepaz: and your answer was not worth an admin ;)

suggestion:
if voteamount is higher than x , remove worst vote
examples.:
1. amount of votes for an entry: 50 - remove the worst vote
2. amount of votes for an entry: 100 - remove the 2 worst votes

etc.

easy to code. i would code you that even if you want ;)

2013-02-10 10:12
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
question is: is a low vote really a downvote or true opinion? or - which is worse: that voters try to control an avarage rating or an algorythm?
for some reason the japanese anti-individual proverb "loose nail needs to be hit" comes to my mind. even weighting the votes here on csdb is a mixed blessing imo.
2013-02-10 12:02
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
it really really breaks down to low numbers.
The avergage is VERY badly defined, i.e. its variance is high. Median is even worse :)
And still: low votes probably mean that the voter did not like the release :)
I know there are people who vote 3 even though they think 8 but they dont want the ranking to be 9 etc... So what?
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