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2005-02-08 23:11
Death Demon
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Careful with your email addresses

I've been poking around the nostalgia sites recently popping my email address up hoping to get in touch with old friends from the scene. Instead, old jealousy has found a way of poking it's ugly head out. I can't believe that jealousy like this still exists after, what, 20 years now?

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From: lkjlkjljk pablo [lkjlkjljkpablo_797@hotmail.com]
raster boy lives again.... total lack of imagination raster boiiiiiiiiii


Only one person who ever refered to me as that. In fact, he has a web page up right now that refers to me as that. Man, can't believe some people can't let go. Hmm, actually it looks like he's updated it in the last few days. Luckily, Google still has it around. If you're interested, do a google search for +"wanderer" +"the survivors" +"raster boy"

Wanderer Commodore 64 c64 NTSC intro demo fbr pe the survivors ...
... I ripped anything after my beginning months in The Survivors. ... a member of FBR who
I call raster boy (DxxxxDxxxx ... did you change your name from Satan to Wanderer? ...
www.ontarioghosttowns.com/c64/c64.html - 84k - Cached - Similar pages

In any event, as I stated, please be careful. It appears that some people out there are still bent out of shape over scene related issues.
 
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2005-02-15 00:56
Death Demon
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Death Demon has some demos to fall back upon, and he was good for his era. I'll grant him that, but he's a has been, and shouldn't make up lies about other people.


Yes, I was good for my era. Some would take that recognition a step further. From there I moved on to more advanced graphics to the point where I started inventing advanced algorithms for 3D graphics. This got me into Silicon Graphics as a hardware design engineer. From there I moved to 3DFX and eventually Nvidia where I am now. Since defocussing my graphics efforts on the C64 demo scene, I have shipped well over 60 million graphics processors (you probably have one of my designs in your computer right now) that a new generation of graphics programmers are learning how to use/manipulate and have several patents ranging from computer automated silicon verification to advanced temporal filtering. A has been? ;)

In any event, is that what your email was about? You want to be thought of as having been better than me, by being "on top", so I'm now "raster boy"? I earned my place in C64 history along with Changeling. Together, we created something I'm really proud of both in terms of FBR and the North American demo scene. A lot of programmers were both inspired and educated by us and that makes me very proud. But that time is over. And all we can do is live with the judgement of history. That judgement doesn't change by sending email to people and resorting to name calling.

I've posted up verifiable information. You've posted unverifiable accusations and childish attacks. This is the end. I've wasted enough time with someone I neither knew, nor care to.
2005-02-15 01:37
Wanderer
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Death Demon
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Whatever he said, the last word has been spoken.

The entertainment value of the entire situation was priceless though *giggle*

See Ya!
2005-02-15 05:25
RaveGuru

Registered: Apr 2002
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Wooah! Now I remember what kept me calling the boards for all these years. Can't remember last time I saw a flamewar this entertaining though. Hats off and applause!
2005-02-15 09:50
Puterman
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Yes, very "entertaining".

Here's a short summary for those who don't feel like wading through hundreds of lines of childishness:

- You smoke crack!

- No, _you_ smoke crack, and you live in a trailer!

- No way, you college dropout!

- College dropout? I'm a fucking professor!

- No, you're not, but I earn $666666666 a year!

- Fuck you, crack smoker, I'm ignoring you!

- Hey, who's the fucking crack smoker?

- Haha, I can't hear what you're saying!

- Because you smoke too much crack?

- Still can't hear you!

- Stop smoking so much crack, godammit!
2005-02-15 10:06
hollowman

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thats a crappy summary, you left out the best bits about having crooked eyes and performing physical abuse with a spatula
2005-02-15 19:25
Wanderer
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hollowman: I laughed my ass off at your reply.

I have to concur, the summary of events is horribly inaccurate. I'm not a professor, I'm a social worker.

It was refreshing entertainment though but alas, all good things must come to an end. If this thread makes 50 posts it will be a sad day indeed :D
2005-02-15 23:09
Death Demon
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This is in no way a flame war. I have not flamed Wanderer yet as I've been trying to keep this a dignified warning to old friends out there.

In any event, despite Wanderer having said he was done and would no longer be bothering me, I'm not getting private messages from him on this forum as well. I can't respond because he has me on ignore, so I'll simply post it here.

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Message sent by: Wanderer on 2005-02-15 03:37:06.606952+01
You check in every 10 minutes, how much of a life are you lacking? Oh wait... you're the same guy who spent a week arguing over ONE email. lol... truly lame. Bye Bruce


I told you once, I'll tell you again. I don't know you. I don't want to know you. Leave me alone. No more emails, no private messages, no chatting, NOTHING. I have no idea why you have this obsession with me.
2005-02-15 23:19
Wanderer
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Are you STILL still warnin... umm whining Bruce?

Six days and 2000 messages later and you still have more to say.

Just keep telling yourself, it's only a computer, nobody on here cares about your personal issues with me, and yes Bruce, you CAN block people on here when they upset your feelings. Everyone receives a private message once in a while, I've even had some less than flattering ones. But I don't whine on a message board for a week.

Seriously, let it go or get psychological help on this one. You had the last word twice and still have more to say.

2005-02-15 23:44
Death Demon
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Great. So some lamer from 20 years ago refuses to grow up or let go of obsessions with people in the elite scene and now I have to choose to block them in order to not be exposed to their active and extremely high levels of retardation. Joy. Good thing you're counseling children on how to act.
2005-02-16 00:00
Wanderer
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Enough already, sheesh.

You made a huge public spectacle of the fact you claim you received an email.

We won't get into the fact the message ID is meaningless. You simply changed the IP address. The IP address resolves to Sudbury *but* it's used by people as far away as 300 kilometres away. That IP scope (as proven to me by going on IRC and resolving IP's of people living as far away as Toronto and Barrie, 4 hours away) belongs not only to my city but many other cities. Sudbury is where the central servers happen to be (Check it on Arin.net)

We also won't get into the fact that I could have used Proxify, The Cloak or a variety of other anonymous services. And yes, some do support HTTPS. So you'd have us believe I chose to use a direct connection?

There's also proxy servers like marketscore.com, a well known proxy. But alas I used my own ISP you claim....

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 69.60.224.10
69.60.224.11
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:47:43
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:47:4

Note the DNS servers, note the host of my webpage, note the IP of any mail I send out. The computer goes to a router so it's in the 192.x.x.x class.

You lied... plain and simple.

While it is true I idolized FBR/Abyss before I knew how to program, it was you who chose to call me at my own home and bitch about something you allege I said. I let that go.

I sent you a private message and you whined some more publically. All of this labelled as a 'warning' but the tone and changing content of your messages says it's more than that.

You tried the obsession and jealousy angles and failed there, you tried Slanty Eyed Shark (bad move there) and failed... and now you're trying the "Don't talk to me, I don't want a relationship with you." approach.

You're not my type Bruce. I'm married but thanks for thinking of me in that light.

You know you DID have a choice. You could have deleted this so called mail if you really did receive it and drop the matter. But look at all you have to say. Evidentally you had a lot of issues you needed to get out, and it shows. I guess I'd have faked an email as well if only to present an opportunity to badmouth me as well.

What was the trigger I wonder? Could it have been your visit to my website? You did after all, sign me up to mailing lists. It makes sense, now I'm seeing a better picture of how you work.

Your glory days were over by the time I came along and I coded circles around your rasters. That in itself is good enough for me. I don't understand why you still have more and more to say though... I gave you final say twice now.

When will you be good and finished? I will go get popcorn and wait for the grand finale :)

p.s. Bruce, it wasn't an 'elite' scene. It was a bunch of 16 year old kids in front of a computer. There was nothing elite about it.

So for the sake of all... I will give you the last word a THIRD time around. Take an hour, compose your thoughts and vent as much as you want. But when it's all said and done, please, for the sake of people who don't care about your personal issues, let it be your last. Even if someone else posts after you... let it go... you're a big boy, I know you can do it.

I'll await your next diatribe.... make it good.
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