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2015-01-24 00:32
SIDWAVE
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CSDB certificate problem



it started doing this today.
?
2015-01-24 00:35
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
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try using http instead of https :-) using https the same issue started quite some time ago
2015-01-24 00:43
SIDWAVE
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well, i clicked a link i got.
when you copy release url, it gives these links!
2015-01-24 01:26
Mr.Ammo
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The reason is:

The identity of this website has not been verified.
• Server's certificate does not match the URL.
• Server's certificate has expired.
• Server's certificate is not trusted.

It expired on March 2, 2012 in the evening.

When you're certain no-one has been tampering with the SSL-certificate, then just click 'continue anyway'. But then again, you'll never know if there's a man in the middle hijacking your 'trusted' secure connection! ;-)
2015-01-24 02:58
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
Quote:
it started doing this today.

so you reinstalled the browser? the certificate has been broken since forever =D
2015-01-24 08:49
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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I think that Opera has been changed lately and now it defaults to https. So when you don't provide http then it first tries to connect via https. Since CSDb can be accessed via https, it will then check the certificate and warns about the invalid certificate.

Solution would be:

- to turn off https on the server
- or buy a real certificate for the server each year
- or users should always type in http in front of the URL when using the Opera browser
- or users should ignore the invalid certificate warning
- or users should not use Opera

I think more browsers will default to https, so the best solution is to turn off https on the server
2015-01-24 09:20
chatGPZ

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Quote:
the best solution is to turn off https on the server

lol. whats wrong with accepting it?
2015-01-24 13:20
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 285
lol. See screenshot in the first post. It shows an annoying warning message from the browser.

If you support https, then just buy a certificate or turn it off if you don't need it.
2015-01-24 13:23
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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just click "continue anyway", just like you would with any other self-signed certificate. (you dont actually think buying one provides additional security, do you?)
2015-01-24 13:37
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 942
Nothing wrong with installing a 10 Euro/year certificate to prevent annoying messages, is there?

Not that I use https when logging in to post this. :)
2015-01-24 13:42
chatGPZ

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feel free to sponsor it :) its a waste of money IMHO
2015-01-24 13:49
Fred

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If it is a waste of money then turn it off instead of wasting time to reply to this thread ;-)
2015-01-24 14:13
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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buying a certificate is a waste of money - using https however is still a good idea, in any case. if you are annoyed by it, just use http - problem solved.
2015-01-24 14:24
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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I don't think you get the point why SIDwave posted this. Anyway, it's not my problem since I don't use Opera.
2015-01-24 14:34
chatGPZ

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oh i do get the point. and the solution has been mentioned more than once now =)
2015-01-24 17:34
Mr.Ammo
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Quoting Fred
lol. See screenshot in the first post. It shows an annoying warning message from the browser.

If you support https, then just buy a certificate or turn it off if you don't need it.


You might find it a nuisance, but you might also be ignorant concerning (computer) security and privacy.

Remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firesheep ?

I'm glad CSDB supports SSL, even when the cert is invalid and self-signed. A quick look at the cert info will give me an idea if it's trustworthy or not.
2015-01-24 19:52
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
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True, I don't like the warning message. What if e.g. gmail shows this warning message, what is your first reaction?
I also think that every site with a login should use https, although that doesn't mean that your login is secure.

Anyway, the discussion is not about using http or https. It is about how to get rid of the warning message for browsers that defaults to https when the site supports it.
2015-01-24 23:49
SIDWAVE
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Graham posted me some links on irc, and they had https.
ofcourse i want stupid warnings to go away.

there is nothing more obnoxious, than such a message when you visit a page.
2015-01-25 07:41
chatGPZ

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the right place to complain about it isnt here however - its your browser vendor.
2015-01-25 07:54
SIDWAVE
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no.
certificate has expired, its a website flaw
2015-01-25 07:55
chatGPZ

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you would get the same complaint from the browser even if its not expired (because it is self signed)
2015-01-26 12:19
Graham
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Quote: feel free to sponsor it :) its a waste of money IMHO

https://letsencrypt.org
2015-01-26 15:58
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
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No need to wait: https://www.startssl.com/?app=39

Either way an expired self-signed cert is worse than useless, if you enable HTTPS use a proper, valid cert.
2016-08-19 17:02
Mr.Ammo
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https://letsencrypt.org/ is already up and running for a while now. Wouldn't it be great if the csdb.dk would get one of these free certificates and install them? One can even auto-renew the certs before the cert expires.
2017-03-03 13:52
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
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Quote: No need to wait: https://www.startssl.com/?app=39

Either way an expired self-signed cert is worse than useless, if you enable HTTPS use a proper, valid cert.


bad news, startcom/startssl are no longer trusted and from chrome 57 they are actively blocked.
https://security.googleblog.com/2016/10/distrusting-wosign-and-..
2017-03-03 20:02
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 2014
Perff: offer stands, contact me any day to fix SSL..
2018-04-10 10:26
ruk

Registered: Jan 2012
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