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Released by :
JSL
Release Date :
16 June 2013
Type :
C64 Graphics
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Submitted by Jak T Rip on 5 July 2013
Congratulations to all for another excessive discussion on the vote system.
Anyway, I like ECCO and I think this is a nice pic. |
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Submitted by Count Zero on 27 June 2013
Mistaking CSDb for the boards and not even taking it to the forum - shame on you Trissi ...
Next to _certain_ other well known individuals from the foggy days of "scene" you seem to be the only one actually having a need to mention the fucked up american/canadian lines we had to use to get something over to the Empire dudes. Wonder why I had to teach them (de)-levelpacking in 1992 still - the number one in the US and Canada!
Nah - Booze, Intruder, Rich and that Euro "HOK" made Empire famours and cool to deal with and that's it.
All I remember about you and a call we had:
"Don't use AT&T to call me - they just busted me. MCI is ok though!" ... and then lots of boasting without much substance on technical details.
(Indeed - his line was blacklisted and cards died when calling him as well as conference calls were said to have been impacted ... )
Could it be you take you shoulder surf action at the local bus station to rip off grandma Edison's calling card a little too big? YOU didn't supply _thousands_ of cards to the scene. TRSI indeed had a famous name for that which you surely know - even personally, I bet. You have to! Even I do! Being a retarded cracker knowing shit about blueboxing, calling cards, PBXs and the shit YOU are definately cool at. Oh, wait - thats knowledge nobody gives a damn about anymore. Yieks! Stuck in the past...
*NOW* start the drama!
PS: JSL's pics are - well - time wasting to me. But ppl enjoy all sorts of things. Fine with me if it doesn't stop me from getting wasted :) |
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Submitted by Shine on 27 June 2013
@ Tristan:
We will miss you and your tons of full quality releases ;) May the force of attention be with you :) |
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Submitted by JSL on 27 June 2013
| No need to comment to Tristan, he can't answer, his account got removed and he is banned from CSDb.. |
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Submitted by spider-j on 27 June 2013
wow. what happened here?!? Seems some people forgot to take their medicine =P
Anyway: Nice pic, JSL! |
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Submitted by Six on 24 June 2013
| Maybe we need a special database for former couriers. They can credit themselves for everything they ever downloaded from one BBS and uploaded to another, and have massive wank circles where they tell eachother how great and skilled they are for it. Because they were IMPORTANT, really. It's not like anyone could just pull a random local lamer off the street, give them some codes and have them move warez around. Being a courier took REAL SKILLZ (tm), like being able to watch TV while files transferred, learning not to bump the phone line out while you wanked, and keeping family members from picking up an extension and breaking the connection. REAL SKILLZ! (tm) Not like pixelling, composing, cracking, coding, and stuff like that - those things anyone can do. |
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Submitted by nomistake on 21 June 2013
@ tristan: you accuse jsl to do this for the attention - but looking at all the shit you wrote WE ALL CAN CLEARLY SEE WHO THE REAL ATTENTION WHORE IS! so here is some attention from me: FUCK YOU!
this also goes out to all the people who call everything "drama" and ridicule discussions that way - please be polite and fuck off!
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jsl: keep on releasing! |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 20 June 2013
| not speaking about cracks now - there are already rules for that (and i very much doubt anyone would agree on removing all cracks without credits. there are hardly credits in most cracks from the old days) |
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Submitted by The Overkiller on 20 June 2013
Groepaz : i still dare anyone to come up with a proper definition of "crap that can not be on csdb" that a significant part of active users can agree on.
-- All the cracks without a credit ? -- |
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Submitted by macx on 20 June 2013
Fungus: Scott! Great to see ya, what are you up to these days? Spotting Scandinavian ladies?
/me slaps Fungus around with a large trout. |
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Submitted by leonofsgr on 20 June 2013
| i'm waitin' the new "leon's cat 156" ;_) |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 20 June 2013
"Databases are for preserving information, if you start to maintain quality control and rule out specific things we are speaking of assorted collection instead."
indeed. i still dare anyone to come up with a proper definition of "crap that can not be on csdb" that a significant part of active users can agree on. |
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Submitted by Romppainen on 20 June 2013
| Seriously, what the fuck is this shit? Databases are for preserving information, if you start to maintain quality control and rule out specific things we are speaking of assorted collection instead. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 20 June 2013
Quote:I suggest you convince Perff to add a tool to move certain comments to a forum. That might help to clean up polluted release comment and might even lead to less nonsense here.
my solution for that is: remove comments alltogether. neither will happen unfortunately :(
Quote:Edith told me he now messed with the database, so please ban ;)
good call. seems someone is demonstrating his elite skills there and doesnt act like a baby at all. vote casted =P |
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Submitted by Danzig on 20 June 2013
Quoting Groepazand it must be taken completely seperated from cases where people mess with the database
But how is trying to convince the moderators to eager "clean up the database" or "ban jsl, he sucks" NOT messing with the database, even if indirectly? :) In law, for TRYING to kill your neighbor you get sentenced as well as for actually KILLING your neighbor (not in the same way, but still). So what action did you take in this particular case? I'm curious...
I suggest you convince Perff to add a tool to move certain comments to a forum. That might help to clean up polluted release comment and might even lead to less nonsense here.
Edith told me he now messed with the database, so please ban ;)
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Submitted by PAL [PM] on 20 June 2013
He removed himself from the credits.... LLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL
Quoting iAN CooG
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Submitted by iAN CooG [PM] on 20 June 2013
readded tristan as musician.
tristan, get the fuck out of this database, thanks.
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Submitted by PAL on 20 June 2013
Strive
This is the only release i find tristan to have contributed on... From 1996, a time where graphics and music and code was at a high level...
well...guess we can see and hear why you are complaining so much about JSL. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 20 June 2013
csdb sceners are too easy, its like..
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 20 June 2013
Quote:What really makes me wonder, is the fact that others got banned here by the famous nazi moderators for the silliest reasons one can imagine. But persecuting an individual with nothing else then personal insult will never ever trigger that at all.
let me try a short answer, because i really think we should get these comments back on track and answer questions like where the hell this atomic acid spill happened that spawned these cute purple dolphins :)
traditionally a high level of "ragging" has been tolerated (and it must be taken completely seperated from cases where people mess with the database). then in this case suddenly, just by peer review, the right thing happened before further intervention was required and the message got across (i hope, we will see). as a moderator i prefer this over making these arbitrary silly decisions =) |
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Submitted by Danzig on 19 June 2013
What really makes me wonder, is the fact that others got banned here by the famous nazi moderators for the silliest reasons one can imagine. But persecuting an individual with nothing else then personal insult will never ever trigger that at all.
@Tristan: I really can understand your demand for praise, since you really might have played a bigger role for the success of empire, but you suffer the same problem as most of the "second line of defence": Demanding the praise is all you got left. Other names are remembered for their genius, you are just remembered as a bystander. You can't cope with that, we all already understood. The people you mentioned, that knoeki should ask for your reputation: I'm sure Dirk (Irata) gives as shit and Frank (Streetuff) proves at a minimum of once every half year that he definately deserves respect, he even IMPROVES his reputation every single time! So please, do the same or shut the fuck up. And leave Johan alone.
@Fungus: Come on, tell you nick(s). I did! (But I will never ever upload any of my early releases ;) )
@JSL: Johan, just go on. In the late 80ies/early 90ies, Tristan won't get tired to mention how great they were, people would have been happy to have pictures like yours in their demos/mags. |
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Submitted by Six on 19 June 2013
| Fucking couriers always did have an inflated and undeserved sense of self-worth. Certainly doesn't give one standing to criticize someone who actually DOES something (besides ferry files around and kiss asses) |
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Submitted by JSL on 19 June 2013
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Submitted by TWW on 19 June 2013
Tristan: A lot of whine comming for you, sur you don't wan't some cheese to go with it?
Anyway, thanx for the tears, taste marvelous... Old and bitter, just the way I like'em. Keep'em comming and cudos on your (well hidden) hero-achievements (which as I understood, consited mainly of organizatory skills which these days is most suited for hair dressers, interior decorators or, last but not least, dog walkers).
Please if you have any other talents which you think relevant, I'm currently employing. If not, you're unfortunately not made it to the second round (somehow I get the feeling you hear that a lot (NB! Personal perception alert!)).
Yes this was an unprovoked personal attack <- See what I did there Tristran? Yes that's right, I did what you did. Even with your shriveled imagination you should understand that even though you don't care and is able to not take things personally (coz face it, that's what a mean tough cold hearted leet' pro like your self should do (probably as a result of too little contac with your mothers breasts during childhood) there are others which might do.
Anyway, I'd better get back to reviewing these CV's..... So many morons who think they know shit and once put to the test crash and burn misserably...
JSL: Take heart in the fact that you're dealing with vermin and screw all dilettantes who can't do anything else than to pick on the ones they find lesser then themselves to try to achieve some kind of "cred" for it.
Pathetic and nothing but a waste of space. |
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Submitted by Fungus on 19 June 2013
| Tristan: I have much better things to do than bother arguing with someone of such limited intelligence as you. I just like to get some good ole raggin practice in now and then, and you were an easy target. But now I've grown bored of you, as you have nothing interesting to say in return. I really don't care what you post to or about me, other people just mention it on irc (you know, where the scene hangs out) and I come have a look. Besides the drama entertains people, and I like to do that, cuz I'm good at it, like everything else I do. But I digress, boring is boring, and boring is you. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 19 June 2013
"I find it amazingly hypocritical that you bash at me for giving criticisms on jsl's pix, when you do the same fkn thing. LOL just look at your comment telling him that his work is good, for a 5 year old."
i am not bashing you for criticizing. its no secret that i am no big fan of his pictures - and its everyones right not to be.
laughing about someone completely misunderstanding the purpose of csdb and being unable to not use it when he doesnt like it, now thats another thing though. |
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Submitted by NecroPolo on 19 June 2013
Nay, Yer Highness, I'm no worthy of Yer Mighty words. I'm greatly honoured to receive those bits of Yer Mighty Wisdom and Intercontinental Clear View. No detail can leave Yer omnipresent sense and stone cold logic unaware.
I have no musical hearing and can't do any good with any instrument and never clubbed for 20 years in smoke and light and shit. All you can find are just coincidences. Some favours I did for people and they let me in their circles as an exchange, I never produced anything really. I just put a picture of Aphex on my avatar from the times when he had his original masculine genitals. I just wanted to be like Thou. Soooooo much you would never imagine.
Yer right on that, we played in one band with Fungus and Groepaz, they were on one side of the iron fence I'm on the other. We never met but it was around the times when we did all gals you ever wanted but you were too Élite to do that. How stoopid we were! How right Thou were! So much of Yer determination, bravery and Élite Highness was needed for that.
So please Yer Highness don't call us 'brothers' we are not worthy of that. Besides many acts were unclean back in time. Too many smoke and light and shit, and gals, some MILFs even.
Yer Highness... Some or more of us here may be Yer daddy. Maybe it was me, Groepaz or Fungus, yer never know. He was a ladykiller beast in his prime I tell ya. You can't call us 'brothers'. It would not be right.
But we're old now even for smoke and light and shit, finding fun only in doing all the peasant redneck things to produce something on this obsolete machine when time away from smoke light and shit allows. Oh and having precious discussion with Yer Élite Higness. That, we greatly enjoy, more than you would think.
Our dream is to be Élite one day and start to develop a fine craptitude. Talking down on people is the only way to prove we are worthy.
Teach us Yer Highness. |
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Submitted by Zapotek on 19 June 2013
| ECCO is not one of your best pictures, But its okay. Keep up the good work JSL! Why not make CSDB History and release a new pic every day for the rest of the year ? :) I am on JSL's Mailinglist and i know he have lots of good pictures coming up :) |
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Submitted by Almighty God on 19 June 2013
| Please upload the 200 unreleased pictures... really wanted to have a look... |
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Submitted by Shine on 19 June 2013
@ JSL:
I think, that you can release gfx as much as you want. The people who don't wanna see it, DON'T need to view your pics. Just ignore it, or not! I guess this is basicly a "free" community. So everyone can release what he wants. With a small amount of comprehensible exceptions. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
The time and vision used to create a work of art is far more important than making useless quotas and meeting non-existent deadlines.
Sceners of today have that luxury when It wasn't possible in the old days.
Take advantage of it and impress us. |
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Submitted by Matt on 19 June 2013
commentaar ga je zowiezo altijd krijgen. maar wat die wannabe elite pummel van een tristan allemaal uitkraamt, daar zou ik mij geen reet van aan trekken, JSL.
ik zou zeggen, keep on pixelling! |
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Submitted by DeeKay on 19 June 2013
Well, I for one would certainly REALLY like to see what you could come up with if you spent one month on a picture instead of a week! ;-) So why don't you give it a try?
I think your way of doing gfx is too ADD, that you'll get bored with any given pic after a week max. And greatness can only be achieved if you manage to stick with a pic, through good and bad, until you reach a certain degree of perfection! ;-)
P.S: I see no black outlines in this pic apart from the letters, so yay! ;-D \o/ |
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Submitted by JSL on 19 June 2013
basically Tristan is against me, my graphics and my uploads. Others do
encourage me, to keep going. The release rate I took since 2011 is one graphic
each week, if that you dislike I could ofcourse pixel my ass off, and release
once a month. I read somewhere that I still don't show progress on pixeling,
well I keep pixeling on the same basis, that I use black outlines is one thing
*you* don't like. And the thing Groepaz said on Piranha (that it's good enough for
a 5 year old) well, Piranha got last place in that compo, I just had an excisting
picture called Bathing, of girls bathing near a waterfall. Unlucky me, choose this
one because I just didn't had other pictures with the theme Veto came with "water",
the piranha was a 2nd picture, and crap is was.. So I added that to the Bathing
scene. Since January 2011 I am pixeling again, after some burnout. I started a new
way of pixeling, using my own sketches. Somewhere I read that most of these sketches
are childish c64 pictures, well then I cannot draw good enough. You get more of
them in the future. And the fact that I have all the free time and no job, means
I pixel and pixel and each week about 6-7 new c64 pics get finished, while upping
one to CSDb. I have just over 200 unreleased pictures, and what else I can do with
them then to upload to a c64 database. If you dislike my pictures, I could ofcourse
have a pause on uploading, then I go for next year again, but then you hear from my
mouth, I have 100 pictures more to it. Where to go with them... |
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Submitted by Matt on 19 June 2013
this picture sucks,
so does tristan. |
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Submitted by Frantic on 19 June 2013
| Very interesting discussion! |
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
@Gropeass: heh u know, I find it amazingly hypocritical that you bash at me for giving criticisms on jsl's pix, when you do the same fkn thing. LOL just look at your comment telling him that his work is good, for a 5 year old.
Piranha |
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Submitted by lemming on 19 June 2013
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Submitted by Cresh on 19 June 2013
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
meh, his style would most effectively fit in this...
BOB nice to see you and CD back in business. Did you get a divorce or a sex change? ;) |
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Submitted by Bob on 19 June 2013
WTF!!! make a demo. ;)
using the discussion as a biig scroller...
Idea!!
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scene 1.
beatifull day!! .. Water and the Island only.. water waving!..
scene 2. Dolphin jumps up.. logo fades in!! and the Drama of the year! scroller ;)
scene 3. weather goes bad with storms
exho turns to different nouances ;) happy to angry dependent on the scroll... ;) and ofcoz some movements added to the Dolphin.. ;)
nice reading indeed..
Hello Tristan I see you haven't changed a bit! ;)
The Scene is fucking a live and kicking ;) second biiig drama yihhaa!! ..
and JSL get your team members to do some demos with your material...
slide shows or cartoon stories about the scene ;) , those use to be very popular on the papermags. I mean your style would fit that very well..
And then that would suite your creativity aswell where people could follow how you perceive the scene ;)
JSL's World! true story based on a C64 Island ;) bla bla bla...
I LOVE THE SCENE!!!
damn I have missed this... |
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
| @wankee: Your point is what? |
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Submitted by wacek on 19 June 2013
| Hey Tristan, based on your avatar you must be Aphex Twin <facepalm> your grasp on drawing conclusions is breathtaking. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
| @funkus: ur raising a family and enjoying life? rly? wow ur a pretty sad excuse for a pimp if you ended up getting ur own whores pregnant. At least no one in the c64 scene will get pregnant because of your stupidity. We all know that you are not happy. Otherwise, you wouldn't wake up first thing and check csdb to see what mighty Tristan has said about you. We all can see that these are your peers and you need their respect to feel good about yourself. Its simple psychology BRO. I can tell this is starting to unravel you, so... I'll take it easy on you from now on. |
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Submitted by DeeKay on 19 June 2013
Aw, damn! <:-) Was just about to post the good ole Drama-pic, but TC beat me to it!...
JSL: Keep it up, fuck the haters! ;-) I'm a bit sad I see hardly any progress in you, but I do appreciate your awesome release schedule! ;-D |
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Submitted by Fungus on 19 June 2013
Last I checked, most of us are raising families and/or enjoying life, including our c64 hobby and reminiscing in past and current achievements.
You seem bitter that no one seems to care about you, or your opinions, Tristan. You can of course choose to keep looking like an idiot and posting in the comments of JSL's ECCO pic... I mean we're all getting a good laugh out of it. You're entertaining if nothing else. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 19 June 2013
| aye necropollo, i see that ur little avatar is of you playing a guitar like in a rock band with smoke and lights and shit. i guess you and funkus were in the same band together? makes sense, if you sang the way you talk in that language you post on here, and he spent all his time being a pimp irl, i guess you guys were destined to spend your 40's on the c64 in 2013. |
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Submitted by NecroPolo on 19 June 2013
Well, Thou Mighty Sir Arthur Tristan Highness in Thy crusade, Thy truth is always right in Thy head to kill the fiwlth what Thou believe to be fiwlth to be killed but respect is all about good attitude on the long run. Thou can't impress people by beheading whom Thou just don't like these days.
In that mean, reading Thy answers as Thou started instant counterflaming anyone who disagreed Thou, Thou art a refugee here. Behaving like a 12-years owld zapped child throwing fiwlth. Bad shine on whatever Thou used to do in Thy greatness. And Thou art, fourty-what...?
Alas, it will be a popular read and Thy posts remain here degrading Thy rawstey respect lower and below, day by day. Now that is history. It will always be a nice example to demonstrate fiwlthey attitude for anyone. All we active redneck peasants beg to say thank Thou for the show Sir Élite Highness for Thy most shiney mark @CSDb in Thy mighty history :) |
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Submitted by PAL on 19 June 2013
I just have to comment again... What some do not understand is that this is art on the c64... it is not airbrush, it is not photoshop and it is nothing that is in real world art scene today... this is c64 and man this image and a lot of others that jsl do is playful, not hype, not the current fashion and not the cool in news or whatever... that is something that make our scene special, kill it if you want... i love it and will always go for this... and also i must say that this image that create so much posts... hmmm... it is actually a c64 image that is rather uniq, it is simple but still detailed and i like it a lot! Stop beeing asshores, just ignore if one do not like it... why would you spend much time on anything in life if you do not like it... really? why... what is it with the ones doing that? When i have done that it is because i have been in a bad situation in life... and that is the truth... LOVE!
Just a sidenote... what jsl did in this with the values of water and mountain and sky and dolphin actuallt make it very special on the c64 art scene because he uses some odd way of making each layer or part very different and it is almost as i never have seen a such image! But i am just a idiot so do not mind my comments! |
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Submitted by Axis on 18 June 2013
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 18 June 2013
"One of JSL's better moments. His pixels instantly look better when they lose the black outlines."
yeah indeed. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| CSBD = no chiefs, all indians |
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Submitted by Dr.Strange on 18 June 2013
| 128 Comments, 34 Downloads. Interesting. |
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Submitted by Deev on 18 June 2013
| I can't be bothered reading ALL of that, but for what it's worth, I don't think this is too bad. One of JSL's better moments. His pixels instantly look better when they lose the black outlines. |
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Submitted by King Durin on 18 June 2013
As someone else around here who tries to do new stuff and learn new stuff but gets whacked on the head for doing so (you know who you are) without any offering of teaching or help, then let me just say to JSL that you should keep up the work and the releases. I particularly find this pic to be very nice. The artist has a STYLE to his drawing and people will either like it or dislike it, it's all personal preference.
As for bashing JSL and his art, that just shows a complete lack of self-esteem and respect for others. Don't like it? Fine, downvote it. That's your right. Don't like it? Fine, say so here. Don't like it? Fair enough, but what purpose would it serve to go on a diatribe about how you're all big and bad and we're all just lamer n00bz? |
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Submitted by Sixx on 18 June 2013
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
I honestly feel bad going in on JSL but when I came back to this place around 2010 i seen the guy basically embarrassing himself. I felt sorry for him and sent him a simple msg suggesting a few things to lessen the harsh criticisms. He said he would just keep doing what he was going to do. I even tried to point out something in one of his pics but no response. Here is a mighty fine example...
Bulldog |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 18 June 2013
People can release what they want if they choose to. We all have our own approach/decision on what we should bring to the public. It is simple as that.
Regarding Tristan's background, there is no need to question it, if you struggle to understand the musings of organising a cracking group during the prime of the commercial scene, then that is okay.
Let's get back to the release itself please or move this conversation to a new forum. |
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Submitted by freℚvibez on 18 June 2013
Aww, purple dolphin is happy about looking at so many comments!
Probably thinks: Why does weird guy demand high release standards if him can't reach? Them music sounds shitty to my sensible ears. Also Tuna, not legend. |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
| Now THAT is fucking gold humor! HAHAHAHAHHAHAH, srsly made me laugh there... anyways the moral of the story is your a bitch. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| dont act like u havent pretended to be elite by typing fungus/hbi into your term prg |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
I can't give away my secrets XD
Anyways, since you're grasping at straws, it's clear that this little exchange is over. I sincerely hope you were better at this back in the day, to think you would lose already to mere 94 scener such as myself in such a short time... TROLLED |
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Submitted by Total Chaos on 18 June 2013
Just keep doing what YOU want JSL, no one cares about the haters anyway. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| @fungus: pimp? really, you were/are a pimp? plz tell me more about how you found time to sell women/men as sex slaves while you play in rock bands and rule at c64 scene. |
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Submitted by Stone on 18 June 2013
-The Scene-
Anachronisms abound.
Feeble sarcasms by the pound.
Who is new? Who is old?
Nothing changes, truth be told. |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
Ahh the jealousy, I get that a lot. It's OK though, not everyone has what it takes to be a musician and a pimp.
I agree with Sorex's idea about the round table, that's a good one. You can be sure to include the ELITE members of the Forum like yourself, Rough, The Shadow and Thor. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| perhaps ppl could participate in a remake of jsl pics? ill take the one that looks like a busted cement vagina with a warped skateboard eyeball wheel in the middle. |
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Submitted by Sorex on 18 June 2013
let him draw that imaginary round table with a couple knights, no wait that might be one of the pictures in Defender of the crown which is probably bad art aswell to his standards. :)
just skip the jsl pictures if you really hate them so much, can't be that hard. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| well i surely would not participate in a csdb compo. why would i support what i disapprove of? i will do a picture and upload it to a BBS |
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Submitted by celticdesign on 18 June 2013
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Submitted by wacek on 18 June 2013
| How about we next hear from you when that pic is done? |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| how about i pixel a scene of FUNGUS having lots of sex while being a rockstar back in the 80's and reveal his secret handle as a logo? |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| I have no skill to draw a better pic than jsl?! HAHAH ok, choose a jsl pic to challenge me with. I'll learn some modern c64 paint tool and show u what i can do. Deal? |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
| That's entirely the point. No one gives a shit in 2013. It's stupid crap you did as a teenager or young adult. This is just a hobby now for everyone. Also, who gives a fuck about a dead bbs from 20 years ago? How many of those people are still around now? Or care? Probably 0. The pissing contest is long fucking over dude, so get over it, get over yourself. Stop shitting on others work, of which you have no skill to do yourself, you just look the fool. Again, Have a nice day <3 |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
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Submitted by JackAsser on 18 June 2013
| In my view you're all lamers... N00bz to be honest really. :P Old or not... around a round table or not... multiple releases or not... N000000BZ! :D |
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Submitted by Mermaid on 18 June 2013
| JSL, if you're still reading the comments here, please keep drawing and releasing pictures and don't worry too much about the votes or overly negative comments. Remember that there are many people who like what you do, and that a new picture from you brightens their day a little. |
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Submitted by Stinsen on 18 June 2013
| Poor Ecco, what did he do to deserve this? :( |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| lol at the desperation of you guys trying to convince each other about your merits and mine. Remember this, Tristan sat at the table of fellow legends, as a legend, that round table known as The Forum. I don't remember seeing any of you there. LOL |
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Submitted by null on 18 June 2013
No need to contact them directly. It's out in the open to see for everyone what a sad little lamer you are (:
Yes, maybe "back in da daze" you were some hotshot, but apparently all you were good for, scene wise, has apparently been phased out.
And that's fine. Nothing wrong with that, and nothing wrong with maybe being proud of the things you've done.
But your high and mighty attitude is what makes you a lamer. Practice, don't preach. |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
"This is TRISTAN/EMPIRE/SCS-TRC... ex groups... TWGI,ROT,FANTASY,NAPALM,HBI,etc etc. Hahahah I still talk to a few of those guys. Whats the project bout??"
Hmmm...
Dink is an ex-meth dealer/cooker/addict, reputable!
Anyways this is all besides the point, let me once again, point you towards the door. There it is over there, don't let it hit your ass on your way out. Have a nice day! <3 |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Knoeki: sure, call up street tuff, irata, etc. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| CRRN: really? you think that pic looks better than the dolphin?! lol x lol man, it looks like a busted cement vagina with a skateboard wheel eyeball in the center. i lack the vocabulary to even describe all the other crap around it. U guys are non stop hilarious. |
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Submitted by null on 18 June 2013
Quote:User Comment
Submitted by Tristan [PM] on 18 June 2013
Knoeki: Son, do you even realize how much respect your elders in TRSI have for me? LOL you will most certainly get a spanking for calling Tristan a lamer.
Calling your bluff right now. |
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Submitted by dink on 18 June 2013
| Tristan, funny you mention xmikex, he's a seasoned troll, and fun to toy with. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Heh FUNGUS you just proved that you know nothing. Check this out... this other lamer xmikex was asking me things one day around early 2000's about scene shit. I made up some shit to make him sound like an idiot. He asked something about groups or some shit i was involved in from the 80's. I told him there was a group called HACKER BROTHERS INC. ROFL it was an amazing underground elite group that was uber secret and ran everything. hahah he took the bait and still mentions it every rare moment i log into #c-64. And guess what, you are now idiot #2 to actually mention HBI. ROFL u have made my day for the second damn time. Ur the best BRO |
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 18 June 2013
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
| You think I'm angry? No just lol'ing it up. Also I'm not your BRO, so don't ever call me that. I did nothing of note before under my old handles, but I was around, and know plenty. PS, I'm good friends with Vizz and other Empire members, and I remember a lot shit talking about you ;) BTW what type of work did you do for HBI again? Seriously though, you over estimate your worth in the scene, yes it takes more than crackers and coders and sysops to run a group and beat the rush. It also requires respect and trust, a couple of things I doubt you have anymore. At least you're not showing any respect here at all. WHY are YOU so mad? I seriously wonder, wait no I don't, couldn't care less. As I said, if you don't give a shit about the scene now or csdb, again, go the fuck away, no ones gonna miss you. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| u guys make rules about comments/where and what to post, but have no standard on the quality of the release feed? Perfect. |
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Submitted by Yoko Tv Inc. on 18 June 2013
| worthy or not - its a release god damnit! |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
really tho, who on this site, old school or new school can consider this worthy of a release in any form...
I Want Blood
pls, tell me. |
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Submitted by Cresh on 18 June 2013
Discussion not related to the release itself.
Move to forum, please. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| lol @ fungus. y u so mad bro? so, you had some accomplishment from the late 80's but u dont want to reveal the handle because it was too good because you were busy playing a a rock star in real life having lots of sex not impressing nerds. But in 2013 you are not having sex, not being a rock star, and impressing 2013 c64 internet scene nerds. seems legit to me |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
| Tristan: I was around, since late 80's. Maybe I didn't always use FUNGUS handle idiot. Maybe also I had a fucking life, like playing in bands, and getting laid, and partying with REAL PEOPLE instead of being a stupid nerd playing with computers trying to be cool to other stupid nerds playing with computers. I know some of what you did, but you're mostly a phreaker, big woop, your no different than a fucking COURIER in my and other people's eyes who actually have some SKILL at something other than hacking a fucking pbx. WHY aren't your accomplishments listed here? Simply because you've done nothing notable except bitch and whine. You want respect and give none, you trash on people who are just trying to have a good time on a computer they have fond memories of, AS A HOBBY. Get fucking real, it's 2013, no one cares a fuck about your bullshit. If you don't like here or in the scene, GO THE FUCK AWAY. |
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Submitted by Sorex on 18 June 2013
"I do admire guys making quaity gfx like jailbird, dk, joe, etc."
you can find ugly stuff from these aswell from their early years, you have to start somewhere.
an then you have taste which is something personal, even a picasso that looks like sh.. gets admired by some so there is no reason to bash on the painter nor the ones who fancy that kind of art. If everyone had the same taste it would be a boring world ;) |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 18 June 2013
Quote:I find it amazing how someone who doesn't even know me supposedly knows so much about me and what I know.
indeed, awesome =) |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Here is a bit of real information you guys can write down for your magazine and history books. Most of functions for releasing something in the old days was achieved by things that happened behind the scenes. The only credit and ranking we needed was winning the first release. That was enough. The pride of knowing that working as a team, in all functions and capacity, won the first release. Later on it was slightly flattering, but eventually superficial, to get ranked in scroll texts. And then the charts in magazines that inflated egos on a monthly basis. At the end of the entire thing the history was skewed and twisted. Its nearly impossible to claim who won what in a certain period. This is why people who are trying to set the record straight still send me messages asking what happened in those days. Mason and Jazzcat are two good examples of people who were from the later part of that period who ask me questions about releases from time to time. I cannot remember all of the shit. But I will tell you that I remember kicking plenty of ass from those days and they do as well. I do admire guys making quaity gfx like jailbird, dk, joe, etc. I enjoy many new sceners works more than old guys. I cannot tell you how excited I was sitting down at x2000 and talking to new school sceners about the c64 while even fellow members of my group were constantly going on about old school old school old school. I get just as excited to see a booze design or other modern demo as I did seeing a esi release in the 80's. The thrill is still there for me but I feel like its all a joke when ppl sucumb to allowing sub-standard shit to continue without insisting change and improvement. |
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Submitted by Testa on 18 June 2013
| i think it is nice to see that jsl has so much joy and fun in pixeling and releasing... keep it up.... |
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Submitted by SLC on 18 June 2013
| Tristan: I find it amazing how someone who doesn't even know me supposedly knows so much about me and what I know. What a few sceners seem to not realize is that the time they're bragging about is long gone. They still act as if they're some kind of heroes and demand respect that they don't really deserve anymore, considering how they treat others. We're not in 1985 anymore, and based solely on your behaviour, you do not deserve any respect at all while you more or less demand it from others. As said before, if you hate it so much here, just go away. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| releasing as much as possible as fast as possible applied to wining races on boards and mail scene. and in 86 it was more about mail scene. this concept didnt apply to demo making or drawing pics. how can you even get these two things confused? u also dont have a fkn clue. you may command respect with your modern day activities and position here, but that doesnt impress me. again stop talking about things you are only aware of from reading history that guys like me made from that period. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 18 June 2013
Quote:Quality before Quantity
funny how the exact opposite was true back in 1986, when it was all about releasing as much as possible, as quick as possible =) |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| SLC: what you know about the real workings behind the old scene is clear. its very little i can tell you. i may not have the respect of ppl who've come about in the late 90's, to the c64, but i keep in mind that those ppl dont have respect for most of the sceners from the old days. |
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Submitted by SLC on 18 June 2013
| Tristan: whatever respect you had, I think you're starting to lose it :P |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Knoeki: Son, do you even realize how much respect your elders in TRSI have for me? LOL you will most certainly get a spanking for calling Tristan a lamer. |
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Submitted by algorithm on 18 June 2013
| People should release what they want. Amazing enough that the 8bit scene for c64 is still going strong. If it was 1000 pictures that are identical but just some minor color changes then it would be a different story |
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Submitted by null on 18 June 2013
Tristan, if you hate it here so much, just get the fuck out, you whiny lamer.
As for the picture, I think it's pretty cool. I like this style, although the water looks a bit off. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| No, its not impressive. Who would want to leave that legacy behind? Ppl 20 years from now pulling of jsl pix laughing their asses off? Quality before Quantity |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 18 June 2013
| now THAT is a nice demonstration of "spamming the site" :o) |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
POINT:
Releases released :
DownloadEcco the Dolphin ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadI Want Blood ... 2013 Graphics (#7 Mixed Graphics at Flashback 2013)
DownloadFor Bugjam 7 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadLeatherface ... 2013 Graphics (#?? C64 Graphics at FatFrost's Friday the Fearteenth Compo!!)
DownloadFor Leon 14 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadNinja Fight v2 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadNinja Fight ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Bugjam 6 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadThe Stork ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadMarty Feldman ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadThe Pink Panther ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 13 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadUFO ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadEvil Zombies ... 2013 Graphics (#?? C64 Graphics at FatFrost's Friday the Fearteenth Compo!!)
DownloadFor Bugjam 5 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 12 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadThe Path ... 2013 Graphics (#5 C64 Graphics at Gubbdata 2013)
DownloadFor Leon 11 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 10 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadBomber ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadCrashed ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadGametune ... 2013 Music
DownloadPiranha ... 2013 Graphics (#12 C64 Graphics at C64pixels.com Double Screen Compo 2013)
DownloadLast Ninja ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadXmas 2012 logo for Delysid ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 9 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadDragonlady ... 2013 Music
DownloadEvil ... 2013 Graphics (#?? C64 Graphics at FatFrost's Friday the Fearteenth Compo!!)
DownloadElvira the Witch ... 2013 Graphics
Download10x Petsci Slideshow ... 2013 Graphics Collection
DownloadArachnid ... 2013 Graphics (#5 C64 Graphics at Forever 14 | Elvis Lives!)
DownloadOctron Graphics ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadThe Dratu ... 2013 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Forever 14 | Elvis Lives!)
DownloadWerewolf ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadBugjam Petscii Graphic ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadNinja ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadYogibear ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadOxyron 3col Logo 1 ... 2013 Graphics (Released at 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013)
DownloadOxyron 3col Logo 2 ... 2013 Graphics (#92 C64 Graphics at 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013)
DownloadBruce Lee ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadArsenic 3Col Logo ... 2013 Graphics (#69 C64 Graphics at 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013)
DownloadThe River ... 2013 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at BCC Party #7)
DownloadLaxity Logo ... 2013 Graphics (#68 C64 Graphics at 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013)
DownloadThe Warro ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadJSL Logo '93 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Bugjam 4 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadFor Bugjam 3 ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadHappy Part 4 ... 2013 One-File Demo
DownloadCaptain America ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadPulp Fiction ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadHappy Yeti ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadPink City ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadI have Demons ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadHappy Part 3 ... 2013 One-File Demo
DownloadDie! ... 2013 Graphics
DownloadTom & Tim ... 2013 One-File Demo
DownloadHappy Part 2 ... 2013 One-File Demo
DownloadDarkus ... 2012 Graphics (#3 Mixed Graphics at the Ultimate Meeting 2012)
DownloadSensei ... 2012 Graphics (#3 Mixed Graphics at Maximum Overdose 10)
DownloadBoddy's Xmas ... 2012 Graphics (#?? C64 Graphics at Offence XMAS2012 Graphics Competition)
DownloadX-mas 2012 ... 2012 Intro
DownloadXmas 2012 ... 2012 One-File Demo (#?? C64 Graphics at Offence XMAS2012 Graphics Competition)
DownloadMansion ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadMayan Temple ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadRazius ... 2012 Graphics (#1 Mixed Graphics at 7DX Demo Party 2012)
DownloadThe Elves ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadChristmas 2012 ... 2012 Graphics (#?? C64 Graphics at Offence XMAS2012 Graphics Competition)
DownloadRaz the Clown ... 2012 Music
DownloadEvil Dead ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadOdie ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadContact JSL ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFreak 2 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadPirates ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadNessy ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadHeaven ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadPrehistoric ... 2012 Graphics (#28 C64 Graphics at X'2012)
DownloadGhosts 2 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadGnarf ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadWizard of Wor 2 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadWizard of Oz ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadI am dead ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadThe Zazza ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadPigs ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadThe Tiger ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadTasmanian Devil ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadMonkeys ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadRaoul Logo ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSmurfDevil ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadJack Tramiel ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadOctavius ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadAlfred ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadKirazo ... 2012 Graphics
Download3000 B.C. ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFrankenstein ... 2012 Graphics (#2 C64 Graphics at Silesia Party 6)
DownloadIn the Dark ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadThe Bear ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadCatweazle ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSmoky ... 2012 Graphics (#10 C64 Graphics at Flashback 2012)
DownloadFluffy ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadExile & Bugjam ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFor Bugjam 2 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadThe Temple ... 2012 Graphics (#3 C64 Graphics at Gubbdata 0.9)
DownloadCthulhu - Digital Talk #94 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSnazoBird ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadBulldog ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSheepDevil ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadAnnika ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadMogul ... 2012 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at FOReVER XIII - A Nightmare In Horná Súča)
DownloadMoose ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 8 ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadQuincey ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFreddy FullScreen ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSabretooth ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadFreddy ... 2012 Graphics (#8 Mixed at BCC Party #6)
DownloadFor Bugjam ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadThe Kwiko ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadCreature ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadFor Leon 7 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSici ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadMammoth ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadNature 4 and 5 ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadSkullbird ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadBlue Tree ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadCaterpillar ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadAsia ... 2012 One-File Demo
DownloadKim San Ling ... 2012 Graphics
DownloadDiddy the Snail ... 2011 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Maximum Overdose 9 (miniMO?))
DownloadThe Goar ... 2011 Graphics (#4 Mixed Graphics at The Ultimate Meeting 2011 )
DownloadWar ... 2011 Graphics (#3 Mixed Graphics at 7DX Demo Party 2011)
DownloadTiger ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadHappy! ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadScooby Doo ... 2011 One-File Demo
DownloadPile of Rats ... 2011 One-File Demo
DownloadTintin ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadI Am Lost ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadReptile ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadCat ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadSceneWorld Logos ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFreak ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadRattlesnake ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadGoGo ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadZombie 2 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadDobby ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadLulu ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadCherry ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadSun and Moon ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFlip The Koala ... 2011 Graphics
Download666 ... 2011 One-File Demo
DownloadSpitfire ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 6 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadStoned Zombie ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 5 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadThe Lizard ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 4 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFight! ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadCreep ... 2011 Graphics
Download666 ... 2011 Graphics (#7 Mixed at Stary Piernik 6.66)
DownloadIn Love ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadSwan 2 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadCobra ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadOrgy ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 3 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadEvil ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadHelp! ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadNew Logos 2 ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadOlli ... 2011 Graphics (#3 Mixed at BCC Party #5)
DownloadNew Logos ... 2011 Graphics
DownloadBasic JSL 3 ... 2010 Basic Demo
DownloadTank ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadDark Lord ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadBatman ... 2010 Graphics (#35 C64 Graphics at X'2010)
DownloadEggs ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadFOE & Krionyx Logos ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadWoody ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadMeal! ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadThe Last Samurai ... 2010 Graphics (#1 Mixed at Stary Piernik 5)
DownloadSpidy ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadAnna ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadJokes ... 2010 Basic Demo
DownloadThe Hulk ... 2010 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Forever 2010 | The 8-bit Odyssey)
DownloadZili ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadGhosts ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadLucky ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadThe Undead ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadThe Castle ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadMansion ... 2010 Graphics
DownloadJungle ... 2009 One-File Demo
DownloadChristmas 2009 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadSwan ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadLast Ninja ... 2009 One-File Demo
DownloadLiz-art ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadHungry.. ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadThe Cave ... 2009 One-File Demo
DownloadThe Tower 2 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadThe Tower ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadZombie ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadTarzan ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadGateway ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadForest ... 2009 Graphics (#11 C64 Graphics at Silesia Party 3)
DownloadReel Fishing ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadTrainer Collection ... 2009 Misc.
DownloadTomb Raider ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadLovebirds ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadFor Leon 2 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadHell ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadThe Gnirfs ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadCilly ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadBackyard ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadAshley ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadCauldron2 ... 2009 Graphics (#1 Mixed Graphics at Euskal Encounter 17)
DownloadThe Lion ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadThe Sea ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadWitchcraft 3 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadVectortown 5 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadVectortown 4 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadJill & Anita ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadTrance ... 2009 Music
DownloadVectortown 3 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadXenia ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadVectortown 1 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadVectortown 2 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadDoctor Hell ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadMermaid ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadGods ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadDobey 2 ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadMaria ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadJesse James ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadDrowned ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadGODS ... 2009 Basic Demo
DownloadElf ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadTeresa ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadWizard of Seven ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadCatch me! ... 2009 Graphics (#11 Mixed at Stary Piernik 4)
DownloadLarissa ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadRAPTOR ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadStupid Ninja ... 2009 Graphics
DownloadChristmas 2008 ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadIndiana Jones ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadParrot ... 2008 Graphics (#13 C64 Graphics at X'2008)
DownloadFor Leon ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadLittle Deer ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadFox ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadInvasion ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadPitfall ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadBewitched ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadSnow Trilogy ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadSheep ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadDeers ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadWizard of Wor ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadWizard ... 2008 Graphics (#1 C64 Graphics at Riverwash 2)
DownloadCauldron ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadGrandma! ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadLost ... 2008 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Silesia Party 2)
DownloadRed Planet ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadHouse on the Water ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadFarm ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadRed Baron ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadMy Eyes ... 2008 Graphics (#?? Mixed at BCC Party #2)
DownloadVillage ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadFranky! ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadMy Friend.. ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadStoned Cats ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadPain! ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadC64 Cat ... 2008 Graphics (#5 C64 Graphics at Forever 2008)
DownloadStoned.. ... 2008 Graphics
DownloadShit! ... 2007 Graphics (#5 Mixed at BCC Party #1)
DownloadInca ... 2007 Graphics (#1 C64 Graphics at Willow Party 2007)
DownloadNinja ... 2007 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Riverwash)
DownloadWitchcraft 2 ... 2007 Graphics (#2 C64 Graphics at Primary Star 2007)
DownloadNessy ... 2007 Graphics (#3 C64 Graphics at Forever 8)
DownloadDaystar Chronicles ... 2007 Graphics
DownloadOld Stuff ... 2007 Graphics Collection
DownloadDevil's Mind ... 2005 Graphics (#6 Mixed Graphics at tUM 2005)
DownloadSnowwhite 2 ... 2005 Basic Demo
DownloadShanghai Eagle ... 2005 Graphics (#3 C64 Graphics at Forever Hex)
DownloadDawn of the Dead ... 2004 Graphics (#4 C64 Graphics at Out of Orderia 2004)
DownloadWitchcraft ... 2004 Graphics (#2 C64 Graphics at X'2004)
DownloadPorno Show ... 2004 Graphics Collection
DownloadDeep Sleep ... 2003 Graphics (#10 Mixed at Willow Party 2003)
DownloadChastity ... 2002 Graphics (#5 Mixed at Vision 2002)
DownloadKung Fu Fighting ... 2002 Graphics (#14 Mixed at Vision 2002)
DownloadOutrun ... 2002 Graphics (#3 C64 Graphics at Role Party 2002)
DownloadRTR Loves Pussy ... 2002 Basic Demo (#2 Mixed at Mail Madness Party 3)
DownloadVisitors ... 2002 Graphics (#7 C64 Graphics at Forever III)
DownloadRTR Loves Pussy 2002 ... 2002 One-File Demo
DownloadWarriors ... 2001 Graphics (#2 Mixed at Vision 2001)
How much of this is considered a quality rls? |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 18 June 2013
Quote:SPAMMING the site with rls after rls of basically the same thing IS THE PROBLEM.
in 1986 that'd be the way to be "elite". funny enough =) |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| SPAMMING the site with rls after rls of basically the same thing IS THE PROBLEM. I'm not the first to mention this. Sort some rule to decrease the frequency of this shit. if jsl was decent he would at least spare us and release this stuff in a pack once a month and include a multi scene gif for the pic. |
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Submitted by Dr.j on 18 June 2013
| @Tristan: doodling or not dooling is not the issue here, the issue we are speaking is that many ppl think (among them myself) this release isn't a doodle, its maybe look childish at the first place but it also called Art . if we look in he c64 past times lets say '1985-'1987 a lot of pictures were pretty "uncool" but we still love them and repsect the ppl who made'em. i hope JSL will continue to release his stuff here. |
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Submitted by saimo on 18 June 2013
Hey JSL, I'd have so many things to say, but I'll (try to) keep it short. I hope I'll contribute something useful.
First off, you've got something that deserves admiration and praise: huge passion. By all means, keep it on fire.
Then, you enjoy immensely what you're doing: by all, means keep it going.
Finally, you wish to share what you create: by all means, keep on doing it (but don't forget that doing so exposes you to the opinion of other people, and that such opinion might be right even when it's not pleasant).
That all said, ask yourself: do I want to get better? If the answer is yes, then here are some starting clues for you.
You have huge passion: excellent. You have some pixel technique: good starting point, but that's an area where you have lots of room for improvement. What you need most is familiarity with drawing: you need to learn about shapes and lighting, and then perspective and composition. I'm under the impression that you focus a lot on technique, but, at the same time, are completely unaware that it's those fundamental concepts that you're missing. Those concepts are not relative to any specific technique: it doesn't matter if you're pixelling, or inking, or painting, or whatever. I suggest you simply grab a book about the basics of drawing and a pencil: drawing on paper should make things easier. If you find it boring and desperately need to push pixels, then go for pixels, but be aware that the pixelling won't help keeping the focus.
There's one place on the net that it's perfect for pixellers who want to improve: if you don't know it already, it's called Pixelation (http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php). There, you can get tons of precious hints/criticism/suggestions/lesson/etc. also by pixel masters (even professionals who work in the games industry). Go there, register, post one of your WIP works or one that you feel that it could use some improvement. Be patient, listen to the criticism, apply the suggestions you're given, interact constantly with who tries to help you out, don't be afraid. It's a sort of pixel school where somebody with your drive can really grow a lot. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| On a beautiful Thursday morning, June 20, 2013... energy is neither created nor destroyed... we are all in a constant state of energy... nothing is final. -Tristan |
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Submitted by SLC on 18 June 2013
| As long as you refuse to provide any samples of what you've done, I don't really see what kind of rights you have to act like this and complain about what others do. If you hate it so much, just stop visiting this site. Personally I think you're overestimating your contributions to the scene based on what you're telling... |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
This is just some of my work from the years 1991 and 1992. Empire
Do you know that it takes more than a cracker or ntsc fixer to win a release? That its a group effort to make sure a team becomes number one? These days you have the internet where all communication is basically free. Empire became #1 not by the internet and csdb. We became #1 partly because I could use my hacking skills at the time to keep our overseas contacts happy, keep the drive xfers running, and group members able to pass work amongst each other. Of course you internet c64 sceners cannot comprehend that. |
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Submitted by algorithm on 18 June 2013
| Why all the bitching about. Its only a c64. Let people release what they want. I assume most people only do this as a hobby in their spare time |
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Submitted by Sander on 18 June 2013
There's no need to question Tristan's past.
Can we go back to the regular back-petting-mode now please? We need to preserve what we got! ;) |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| I am telling you that I dont have to prove shit about what I did in a time when there was more to being a scener than making shit. Do you even know what it takes to win first releases globally in the 80's? No you dont' So go back to buying originals off ebay and spending months to make jewel releases when there is no competition. I need to prove myself against someone who spamms the board nonstop with garbage c64 childrens doodles?! LOL this place. |
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Submitted by SLC on 18 June 2013
| I'm not implying anything at all. All I (and some others) are asking, is if you can provide some examples of your work since you seem to have no problems bragging about "everything you did". But so far, you haven't been able to come up with anything. Exactly why should anyone at all care what you think? |
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Submitted by Mase on 18 June 2013
Definition of has-been
noun
informal
a person or thing considered to be outmoded or no longer of any significance (see below): |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
oh wait, try logging onto antidote. looks like i've got a log-on screen there. is that up to standard for todays real scene? oh i guess it isn't real since someone hasn't filed it as a release on csdb. silly me. of course everyone knows that csdb is the authority on everything that was ever done on c64.
If its not listed here on csdb, then it never happened ::rolls eyes:: |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| You think the c64 scene was ran by shitty gfx prods in the old days? LOL, if thats what you are asking me to provide then sorry you wont be getting proof of that. The fact that Empire reigned supreme in a time of the commercial scene is partly due to my efforts. Of course you guys wouldnt understand what it took to win in a time when a commercial scene existed. Its pointless for me to even talk about it. Go back to neatly filing all these great new jsl pics since thats what the "Scene" is about. |
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Submitted by SLC on 18 June 2013
Tristan: if you stopped logging in all the time, your account would be wiped automatically.
Also, inquiring minds still wants to know what you actually HAVE done when you first brought it up. If you were contributing so much as you claim you did, surely there's no problems actually pointing us towards some of your work? |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| fungus: you came around to the c64 scene when? 1994? lol you have no clue about my accomplishments in the real c64 scene because you wern't around in a time to understand how it even worked. You are like the rest of the "Sceners" who come around in a time when the c64 commercialy is dead and all you guys do is read old magazine and try to imitate a period in history you weren't around for. You think because my lists of accomplishments aren't listed, catagorized, neatly filed, and dated, and ranked in this fkn site that i've never did anything? lol wow u have no clue. I've been a driving force in groups to win first releases in a time when a commercial scene existed. What have you done? Make special versions of 30 year old games in 2013? Don't run ur lip about things you know nothing about. Go read some old mag interview, scroll texts, and board caps about me. Ask anyone from the real days of the c64 about me. I've got nothing to prove to you. |
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Submitted by Fungus on 18 June 2013
JSL: not bad, not great, but not bad.
@ Tristan: What have you EVER done for the scene other than get busted? HMM? Nothing, so quit your whining. |
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Submitted by Mase on 18 June 2013
"Aye, ok then.. I suppose its fair game for me to start "RELEASING" daily petscii doodles I will make from rolling my head across the keyboard."
Go ahead, works for modern art.
Keep at it JSL, this place wouldn't be the same without you. I admire your passion for what you do. |
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Submitted by v3to on 18 June 2013
guess this is what happens when people are mixing up a database as social media platform.
jsl: actually i do like many of your recent pics. many motives really show positive vibes. tbh not this one, because i just love the realistic look and skin of the mega drive original (which is also not very detailed) and imo you reduced the level of detail to a minimum here.
i tend to watch the motive only and not to think about your pixel technique, because imo trying to get a picture done in - let's say - 3 hours, it is more a matter of luck if the picture turns out good or bad (esp using amica paint). and i guess this is also the case why it is hard to imagine, how the peoples reaction will be.
told you this before: with your productivity rate i'd seriously try 4-color-animations. instead of 3-6 pictures a weekend this would be a solid amount of frames... |
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Submitted by Oswald on 18 June 2013
| Tristan, the scene is not what it used to be, we're a bunch of old farts not able to let our child computer go. JSL enjoys drawing pictures and getting some feedback on it here. It's not that everyone thinks he is the best gfxman in the world, we just share interest, and cheer that he is doing his part in his way in all of this. We're not children anymore to piss on some1s work just becasue it's "not good enough". Get over it, the best still get the recognition they deserve dont worry. |
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Submitted by Almighty God on 18 June 2013
| Tristan: The votes in the scene have never represented what is seen. |
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Submitted by Steve on 18 June 2013
| It's probably not the "greatest" piece of art ever on the C64 but it's a lot better than I (or indeed a lot of people on this site) could do and good on the artist for "having a go" !! To those of you criticising give the guy a break, he's doing what he can and presumably learning more in the process. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| I forgot to mention one thing. The fact that EIGHT people have voted this screen as a TEN is proof that the system here is corrupt. |
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Submitted by Almighty God on 18 June 2013
I think it's not about quantity, it's just about quality.
And you must support the bad/good critics and no complain.
You must sit down and think about your childish style too.
One think it's that you love your art but that not make it good to others eyes , not bad either.
Pixel and enjoy because you love but not for glory because you'll not get that here.
You are not a great graphician, but neither the worse. Accept that and you´ll live better... |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| All I keep hearing is how much he contributes to the "Scene"... the scene? the scene!?... the scene. sigh... ok, look if this is such a particular part of this precious thriving scene here on csdb, then you guys can have it. It's just not for me. I'm fairly sure other old-timers share the same sentiment as I do. Since there are so many of you, and so few of me, I will bid you farewell. This place just isn't for me. CBA created this account for me as a place-marker in 2004. Hopefully my account can be erased and you guys can go on with your "Scene" and I can choose to start calling the boards again and get my demo news from pouet. |
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Submitted by Chico on 18 June 2013
| @Rough: Check out the soundtrack for the game from Spencer Nilsen. He did it for the Sega Mega CD version. It´s much more beautiful imo. :-) |
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Submitted by JSL on 18 June 2013
| It's just I have too many C64 works made, I have a C64 at parents, and one here in Venray, I have no job so I can pixel all the time. That I release once a week a picture is that I like CSDb, and getting rid of the C64 works I did, I am not the kind of graphician who does 1 job in months, I pixel alot. Last weekend I sent my contacts 7 new pictures. Often I come with heaps of new pictures, what to do with them, ofcourse "upload them", with just 1 picture upping and doing 7 more of them, I got a Pc full of maps, over 200 unreleased pictures since I started pixeling again in January 2011, then there are also the 13 ROLE slideshows, which bear each 3 pics. Comes to it. This is some awesome collection, no other graphician in C64 scene has. They just pixel, and upload, and think about the next one. I pixel in massive loads of pictures. I must loose them. I already spoke earlier in a comment of upping twice a week. But now this on Ecco, I release Shit. And too many. |
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Submitted by Oswald on 18 June 2013
| hehehe :) I totally respect your determination of pushing the pixels like there's no tommorow. keep em coming, the scene would have been really less without you. |
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Submitted by JSL on 18 June 2013
| That I release Shit just means I am a not that good skilled graphician in the c64 scene. I do my best in pixeling. And perhaps it's also that some of you don't respect me. And Necropolo .. It's all about pixeling, I like pixeling on the C64. You see that in your Email when I send my contacts the hard work I did. And yes Ecco is a copy of the original title screen from the Megadrive Console game, sorry for that. JSL coming with Shit all the time, can you do better in pixeling Tristan?, Leon/Singular often comes around with a new piece, but no one complains about his works. He has Respect in the scene, JSL just hasn't. Sometimes I pick a art piece from my Maps, thinking This One Is Cool, much work involved. And it gets a 6 as vote. Lateron the 5's and 3's are coming. Ofcourse there are some sceners who like my art, why would they download it 40 times and over.. I wonder what Tristan sent to the Mods, I have a guess: JSL comes with Shit Art, please Ban him from CSDb. |
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Submitted by lemming on 18 June 2013
oswald> tristan, one thing you get totally wrong: this site is not about quality, its about collecting ALL releases of the c64 scene.
tristan> Gropeass: I released things since the 80's when the c64 was relevant.
How about uploading some of these 80's releases and leave this pic alone already? It's a decent fullscreener and that's it.
Also 2010 called and wants the infernally frustrating originality vs copying -discussion back. |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Its pretty evident what jsl does. releasing shit for constant attention. anyone can see through that transparency. i mean, really. im not the only one who has spoke up about this. ive sent a msg to the mods. i really dont want to be a part of this site if they allow shit like this to go on. you have to have standards. jsl uses the rules to spam the fuck out of the release feed. its clear and evident. if he was jsut serious about making art then he would take his time, improve, and release a good pack every now and then. have a good one ppl. |
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Submitted by Oswald on 18 June 2013
| tristan, one thing you get totally wrong: this site is not about quality, its about collecting ALL releases of the c64 scene. |
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Submitted by bepp on 18 June 2013
| I know at least one more artist who do pink dolphins - so they can't be all wrong ;-) btw this is one of the better JSLs. Keep it up dude! |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
Really though.. where is all this skill, artistic development, creativeness, etc etc in just poorly copying someone else's work? And don't even attempt to say that you made your "own version". We all know you couldn't capture the angle/perspective just like those ninja pics you did that looked like abstract willy wonka on lsd lost in a partial Escher doodle.
http://postimg.org/image/s5ls9s4nf/ |
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Submitted by Reject on 18 June 2013
| Getting things done is the only way to survive in scene.. neat gfx btw! |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Aye, ok then.. I suppose its fair game for me to start "RELEASING" daily petscii doodles I will make from rolling my head across the keyboard. |
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Submitted by FATFrost on 18 June 2013
| Oh... CSDB=Critical Scene Database?? I get t now... I just thought it was a database of releases related to the commodore scene... |
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Submitted by Tristan on 18 June 2013
| Gropeass: I released things since the 80's when the c64 was relevant. So when did your elite activity come about? 1995 after the even the polish scene had tossed the c64? LOL Releasing no shitty pics on c64 for 20 years is far better than spamming this place with the garbage jsl chucks out. |
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Submitted by NecroPolo on 17 June 2013
I have to agree with Groepaz again. Completely.
Nice crapola again for nothing, BTW. Elitism to the hell, man.
And JSL, why the hell do you still care about all that voting and rating and grumpy feedback crap? It would be time to step over it, man. What you do is favoured by many people but not everyone. So what? Do you do it for candies or for the joy of pixeling? You know the answer. Try to accept it man. |
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Submitted by Sledge on 17 June 2013
Groepaz is spot on :)
And JSL, keep going! |
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Submitted by wacek on 17 June 2013
| Groepaz with his trademarked finesse expressed what most of us were thinking. +1 and hat off to you, sir! ;) |
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Submitted by PAL on 17 June 2013
The thing that is very up in the daylight is that all must comment on stuff they do not like, even they do not make anything themself... it is like there is no-one-creating-stuff-but-all-hold-a-feedback-inside... make the feedback alive, just make it sometimes... because it is the ones just sitting on the fence that make us that really do create the most to be sad and unhappy... it is just simply really sad... in a way, a one pixel image is better than most of the feedback on here!
JSL: Keep em comming... you make lots of great images, some less and some great... so that is your art and way... welcome anyday. If i were to be sad because you release something i better stop doing c64 at the age of almost 40... come on dudes... enjoy or do not look at it! |
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Submitted by celticdesign on 17 June 2013
well, be happy about all those comments and all the attention.
at least you know that some people like it and some not :-)
the average vote of 6 seems okay for me as i can understand anything in the range from 4 to 8.
nevertheless the picture looks a bit unfinished but with some improvements it's good enough to be used as title picture for a game... |
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Submitted by FATFrost on 17 June 2013
| Elitist's, can you stop releasing finely tweaked photo convertions too. It's so boring and uncreative. |
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Submitted by The Gothicman on 17 June 2013
Haha...
Just voted 10 to to show my solidarity...
And all of you should do so, as well... :) |
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Submitted by STE'86 on 17 June 2013
Fck me... +1 Groepaz
you might want to diary that. its worth a csdb entry in its own right :) |
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Submitted by Shine on 17 June 2013
@ Groepaz:
F_ACK ... +1
JSL ... u r a kewl dude :) go ahead |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 17 June 2013
"The time is long overdue for someone to make a site with better quality control. Delete my fucking account here someone."
says the one who never released anything in the past 20 years....
and JSL: dont listen to those crackheads who would link their fucking intro infront of any pile of dung that sees the light, and then turn around and whine about low quality releases. |
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Submitted by Rough on 17 June 2013
Who gives a fuck! Let him release as many single releases as he wants.
ps: Tim Follin made the Dreamcast soundtrack to the game, check it out, lamers. |
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Submitted by JSL on 17 June 2013
| How should I know which ones are the TOP pictures. I just pick one out of the list of 200+ unreleased pictures, I can't foresee bad comments. Like the Leatherface picture which got a 9 - Leatherface was just 30minutes of work, and is crap. But turned out good. I could ofcourse also quit my account at CSDb, and give up C64 as you guys dislike my spamming of the site, then no one will see the 200+ unreleased pictures I have in stock. |
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Submitted by hedning on 17 June 2013
| I second Mirage, but would like to put it like this: Why release every single pic you make, JSL? Release the top pics only. After all the feedback you've got on your thousand pics, you should know what is good and what is not. |
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Submitted by Yogibear on 16 June 2013
| This is a nice pic JSL! Just keep going. You're doing fine! |
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Submitted by Tristan on 16 June 2013
| The time is long overdue for someone to make a site with better quality control. Delete my fucking account here someone. |
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Submitted by groms on 16 June 2013
| Dear JSL, Please continue spamming this site. Thank you. |
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Submitted by Mirage on 16 June 2013
| Dear JSL, Please stop spamming this site. Thank you. |
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Submitted by JSL on 16 June 2013
| Now don't force me to do a V2 like the Ninja Fight picture. Adjusting colors in this picture is easy. Getting a Grey Dolphin. Artistic Freedom, I like Purple Blue. :D |
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Submitted by Rayne on 16 June 2013
| I think the colours of the background fits better together with a grey dolphin, maybe the purple one would look better when using other colours on the background or something :) |
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Submitted by JSL on 16 June 2013
| Never seen Purple Dolphins? :) - I could ofcourse made it in Grey, to get a normal skin of the Dolphin. It was just an experiment to do it in Purple Blue. |
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Submitted by Rayne on 16 June 2013
| @JSL: There's nothing wrong with the picture itself, looks really nice. In my opinion only the colours are looking a bit false. |
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Submitted by JSL on 16 June 2013
| I didn't know for sure if it was from Nintendo.. And regarding the Voting Score it gets, I delivered a crap picture this time, not new..since it was made a year ago, but next thing would be that some other graphicians (I don't give names) come with their new graphic piece here on Db, not so skilled artists, which blow you away with an awesome 9.5 - No, JSL isn't the greatest, but there came some graphics around, looking at them I had pictures which where better, but getting heaps of downvotes. Yeah, I deliver crap. Enjoy the Ecco remake. ;-) |
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Submitted by ruk on 16 June 2013
| Not so much Nintendo as it was originally developed by SEGA for the current king of the hill console Mega Drive in 1992. However, it was much later released for Nintendo's Virtual Console in 2006. I remember how astonished I was by the smooth animations of the dolphin's movements. Never really got into the gameplay though. |
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Submitted by JSL on 16 June 2013
| Thought it would be time for another Upload.. Here, my version of Ecco The Dolphin. Famous Nintendo game.. |
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