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Echofied 6581   [2010]

Echofied 6581 Released by :
Maniacs of Noise [web]

Release Date :
2 May 2010

Type :
C64 Music Collection

Website :
http://soundcloud.com/dees-productions/sets/echofied-6581

User rating:**********  9.6/10 (47 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  9.7/10 (21 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Geir Tjelta of Maniacs of Noise
Music .... Drax of Bonzai, Crest, Maniacs of Noise, Vibrants
  Geir Tjelta of Maniacs of Noise
  Jeroen Tel of Focus, Maniacs of Noise
  Laxity of Maniacs of Noise, Vibrants
Graphics .... Mirage of 5 O'Clock Software
Design .... Geir Tjelta of Maniacs of Noise
  Mirage of 5 O'Clock Software
Charset .... Jon Hare


SIDs used in this release :
Caught in the Middle(/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/Caught_in_the_Middle.sid)
Crosswords(/MUSICIANS/L/Laxity/Crosswords.sid)
Echofied 6581(/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/Echofied_6581.sid)
Oro Incenso(/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/Oro_Incenso.sid)
Powerhouse(/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/Powerhouse.sid)
Resolution (extended version)(/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/Resolution_extended_version.sid)
Ubi-Sound(/MUSICIANS/T/Tel_Jeroen/Ubi-Sound.sid)

Download :

Look for downloads on external sites:
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User Comment
Submitted by TheRyk on 26 May 2021
*deleted some half a dozen comments from April 2021 debating youtube issues*

Focus on commenting the actual release, use forums to debate whatever else as it doesn't belong here and moderating comments ain't no fun at all.

Now pretty please, BTT! Thanks!
User Comment
Submitted by Stinsen on 27 December 2020
The later parts of Powerhouse is still something impossible to do in my ears.
User Comment
Submitted by Stinsen on 27 December 2020
Powerhouse => Caught in the middle => Oro Incenso. Easy. :D
User Comment
Submitted by GH on 27 December 2020
What no comment by me on this? After hearing these I must have been hiding for a while ;)
All top notch tunes, really musical and so much focus on leadmelodies verse chorus ect...just wow
Ubisoft by Jeroen most appealing to me... those breaks and musical variation on expression
are just the way. Awesome graphix and ideas even today.

Futhermore I agree 100% with what Dane said
User Comment
Submitted by Saphir on 26 December 2020
Brilliant collection of awesome songs, what a joy to listen to :)
User Comment
Submitted by Stinsen on 12 July 2019
Without a doubt the finest music collection ever.
User Comment
Submitted by GT on 11 March 2019
Still good stuff! ;-)
@Frantic. Yes, the dithering on the far left and right is for the pulse waveform and the $d41c volume envelope for OSC3.
User Comment
Submitted by DeeKay on 12 September 2012
Oh my, how could I have missed this absolute gem of aural and graphical brilliance? Thank you, #c-64!
User Comment
Submitted by Stinsen on 29 April 2012
This so needs to be bumped, pure aural perfection...
User Comment
Submitted by Manex on 3 November 2011
Found before few days, and still must listen to :) I made youtube version of collection here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegnTfwztT4&list=PL56E38C0DB17C5..
with sound grabbed from real C128 with 6581 R4 chip.
User Comment
Submitted by Stainless Steel on 18 February 2011
Masterpieces alltogether. Massive respect. The Awesomeness.

Jeroen's UBI-Sound is so badass funky.
User Comment
Submitted by GT on 30 July 2010
The battle:
"The scroller needs to be white!"
Yyy-yep. :)
User Comment
Submitted by SIDWAVE on 30 July 2010
can it be true i waited so long to comment on this ?

well, its golden!

but i think the echo routine only does justice on oro incenso, resolution, and crosswords - the rest it adds diginoise, and it makes my ears bleed.

still, this is a milestone musicdemo, and im glad you got it together after a long battle. :D
User Comment
Submitted by GT on 29 July 2010
@Stainless. That's indeed one of the best tunes in the demo. My favourite.

@Conrad. Thanks. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Stainless Steel on 28 July 2010
Just getting stuck on Drax's Caught in the middle. Very nice.
User Comment
Submitted by Conrad on 18 July 2010
Powerhouse <3 (and that's even without Geir's superb echo technique)
I love listening to it so much, that I actually figured out who did what in it, being it a teamwork tune. ;)

Also, Jogier Liljedahl on c64??? \o/
User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 18 May 2010
DRAX - I'd call this Music Collection, due no track loader or other jazz'n'activity loaderwise take place. If you like your own song/music you know it's good and you made thinking out of the box ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Dr.j on 15 May 2010
great work guyz.10x mon. i always admired maniacs of noise for excellent tunes and awesome works. this release
brings me the great memories from the old crazy c64 days . Thanx Geir , the gfx is really kicking ass. for me 'crosswords' always rocking a head
User Comment
Submitted by DRAX on 15 May 2010
Thanks for the comments guys - certainly brings warmth... I was wondering though... This is defined as a music collection and Noisy Pillars for instance is defined as a one-file demo... Where do you draw the line? ... In a way it is a collection and in a way it is a one-file demo... Is it the amount of tunes... I am asking because I have no clear answer on that myself... Maybe someone can give me a definition ;) ... Well, anyways, I am glad that you like the music... And thanks Xiny for the comment on Caught... That tune is also one of my personal favorites of my own tunes (how narcissistic did that sound ;) )
User Comment
Submitted by Archmage on 14 May 2010
Great stuff.
User Comment
Submitted by Fredrik on 13 May 2010
Thanx Geir. Great sids!

User Comment
Submitted by GT on 13 May 2010
Added Oro Incenso and Ubi-Sound SID files. Loopable, dry versions.
User Comment
Submitted by 6R6 on 11 May 2010
Finally :) It's great stuff Geir!
Sounds best on real C64.

User Comment
Submitted by Hein on 11 May 2010
Ventura, don't take your personal life to work, dude ;) We all have a shitty personal life (now and then, here and there), that's why we make demo thingies. :D
User Comment
Submitted by Zer0-X on 10 May 2010
Maybe I'll also add my recordings here:

http://oms.wmhost.com/Echofied_6581/

Left channel is from 6581R3 and right channel from 6581R4AR. Take your pick.
User Comment
Submitted by dalezy on 8 May 2010
ventura, i and the following commentators are and will be somewhat sorry, but the last comment certainly won't be yours.

i had to have this one to take effect on me, been listeining to this compilation a lot since it got out last sunday.
i still don't get how all this extra echo-channel stuff works, i'm maybe too less of a hacker. though, from the not-so-technical side of things, i totally love the tunes for what they are: solid musicial masterpieces.

resolution and powerhouse are my definite favorites, which shows again that i'm a clear drax-disciple. thomas, double-thumbs up yours. :)

also, major props for lars, the pic of geir is _awesome_; i want to see the reference picture!
other than that, there's a thing i'm wondering about, is jogeir member of mon these days? and moreover, if he is, will he finally do some music on c64 on his own?
User Comment
Submitted by GT on 8 May 2010
Here's a MP3 package of the tunes recorded from my C64 (6581R4AR). This is the machine I used to develop it.
http://uploading.com/files/get/b7e4e628/Echofied%206581.rar/
User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 8 May 2010
"Caught in the middle", just keeps growing for everytime I listen to this masterpiece. The amazingly chords just blow my mind away into a ride through particles and colors, through an evolution of electrowaveforms. Gosh!
User Comment
Submitted by Yazoo on 7 May 2010
pure love - but the scroller is a pain in the ass (hard to read) hehe
User Comment
Submitted by Burglar on 6 May 2010
beautiful and coherent music disk!

my favs were hard to choose, but I guess they are ubi-sound and the jogeir track. though, all of them stand out as much as they should in a Maniacs of Noise release.

awesome pic by lars!

User Comment
Submitted by Fredrik on 4 May 2010
Great, the sidfiles are uploaded. Thanx!
User Comment
Submitted by DRAX on 4 May 2010
Deleted the wrong version of Resolution and added the new one + Caught and Powerhouse. Please add the others, Geir ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Mr. Mouse on 4 May 2010
Nice tunes overall. They all have a bit of a samey feel, which could be intentional. Nevertheless, always good to hear some tunes from you guys.
User Comment
Submitted by Linus on 4 May 2010
Awesome collection, Geir´s Liljedahl cover is my fav. Splendid gfx, too!
User Comment
Submitted by DRAX on 4 May 2010
Thanks for all the sweet comments ;) ... Thanks to you, Geir, for putting this screen together... And thanks to you Lars for always delivering awesome gfx... Who has added that sid version of Resolution?... It's the old version and not the extended version?
User Comment
Submitted by GT on 4 May 2010
Thanks for all the nice comments. My favourite is Caught In the Middle by Drax. And his other tunes are awesome aswell. Amazing picture, very good portrait of me Lars, never said anything else. Your graphical skills, and your ability to design is speechless.
User Comment
Submitted by Norvax on 4 May 2010
This is great. Powerhouse and Caught in the middle are my favorites.
User Comment
Submitted by Medicus on 4 May 2010
@Xiny6581: great! thanks
User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 4 May 2010
Here is the URL for all who wants to enjoy the real deal "as supposed to be", portable or just as it is :)

http://soundcloud.com/dees-productions/sets/echofied-6581

PS. UPDATED DS.
User Comment
Submitted by Zielok on 4 May 2010
I agree with Wackee - better type is music collection
User Comment
Submitted by Isildur on 4 May 2010
@Xiny6581

Just do it!
(the url)
User Comment
Submitted by wacek on 3 May 2010
Lovely release overall :)
Just wondering about the type, shouldn't it be rather set to "music collection"?
User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 3 May 2010
This is massive and impressive. All the songs are simply great.
Hands down, well done :)

Ps. I've made recodring of the songs from a real C-64(6581r3), in case someone can't listen on true hardware. I post URL if wanted.
User Comment
Submitted by QuasaR on 3 May 2010
Hell, what a collection of SIDs and nice GFX!! The right thing to sit down with a beer, listen to the great music and relax... Congrats, MANIACS, to be back once more!
User Comment
Submitted by null on 3 May 2010
Nice tunes, overal, but not exactly my taste, although Powerhouse is quite nice.

I won't further judge anything since I've only seen it on an emulator.

Yeah, go ahead, shoot me (:
User Comment
Submitted by booker on 3 May 2010
Aye!

High quality SID all in all, although sometimes the low resolution of the NMI echo NMI hurts ;). Other than that it's so great to hear new or unreleased stuff from all of you, Maniacs!

The gfx and the design is neat. The tunes play one after another in a good fashion, but the bottom scroll, though looks wicked is really hard to read.
User Comment
Submitted by FATFrost on 3 May 2010
YES! This is why i still love C64! Thank you very much!
User Comment
Submitted by Richard on 3 May 2010
Absolutely brilliant :)
User Comment
Submitted by Ed on 3 May 2010
Thanks for this collection of tunes!

Now, all we need is some timer settings for the delay and feedback to create some even more awesome effects :)

Reverb, anyone?


User Comment
Submitted by linde on 2 May 2010
This is really good! Some quite memorable tunes, and on the really high leads, the aliasing in the echo produces some nice weird and unfamiliar overtones.
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 2 May 2010
Lars: You did the image far better than what I did with it, so to me it is also an opener of thinking different when creating an image... cool work you did here too...
User Comment
Submitted by Mirage on 2 May 2010
@Geir: (would have told you this in a PM, but i think other people would like to read this as well)

I'm kind of glad you decided to release this as-is, instead of waiting for me to come up with something better graphics-wise.
I never liked the big scroll and also don't really like the picture of you i drew (multi-colour is still a b*tch, i prefer FLI ;))

I do like the little scrolls in the top left, which you added recently... it's almost as if that was the only thing needed to make the whole thing look a bit more coherent.

Anywhoo, glad that it's released now and out of the way...

The music at least is magnificant, to say the least, and that's what it was all about to begin with :) (and 'Resolution' is my favourite, nice job, drax)

P.S.

Neil: it's finished, i hope you never get any c64 scene related emails any more ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Stone on 2 May 2010
Great stuff. Powerhouse is my favorite too, after only hearing it once.
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 2 May 2010
Geir, can you do a special version of the last part in phoenix demo by shape for me sometimes when you feel like it? You know that it is my all time fav sid tune no matter what you say that you were young and all but to me it is so special, please do one for me?
User Comment
Submitted by gorans on 2 May 2010
Beautiful. I thought that nothing will beat Ubi-sound and then the Crosswords started, and then the Resolution...

Works of real masters. :bow: and thank You.
User Comment
Submitted by Clarence on 2 May 2010
Wonderful! Powerhouse and Resolution are simply too good to be true. :)
User Comment
Submitted by WVL on 2 May 2010
Masters!
User Comment
Submitted by daison on 2 May 2010
Awesome tunes, each and everyone of them has such a 'full' sound it's almost un-sid-like if you know whay I mean. Nice presentation also. Tnx dudes!
User Comment
Submitted by Dane on 2 May 2010
I agree 100% with what Hein said.
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 2 May 2010
Top graphics and top music. Cool demo Geir and the rest of you dudes. Hope you have a fun and jolly time.
User Comment
Submitted by Frantic on 2 May 2010
Very well executed! I have no problems with the scrollerz..

The exact logic of the table at $bf00-$bfff beats me. Of course I can see that different values will be fetched depending on the current envelope and oscillator value in sid voice3, but why exactly it looks the way it does... i.e., why the "middle" values are lower than the lower values on each row, and why there is a bit of "toggling" back and forth between values when going from left to right in the table... (Row is determined by the hi nibble of the envelope generator, and the oscillator value is shifted down to a 4 bit value and stored in the lo nibble of the pointer to this table, i.e. the position on each row).

0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d,0d
0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0c
0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0b
0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0a,0d,0b
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,0a
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,0a
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,08
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,08
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,08
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09
0d,0c,0b,0c,0b,0a,09,08,09,08,09,0a,0b,0c,0a,09

The guess in the first case is that this is to pitch up the echo somehow?

The guess in the second case is simply some sort of dithering...?
User Comment
Submitted by jailbird on 2 May 2010
FUCK YEAH! Nothing more to add here =)
User Comment
Submitted by Mace on 2 May 2010
This is cool music. Wouldn't know which one to pick as my favourite, it's either Ubi-Sound or Resolution.
The graphics are quite cool, but I can't resist to say that the middle finger of the right hand (left for the viewer) looks a bit awkward :)
User Comment
Submitted by Joe on 2 May 2010
Cool stuff!
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Submitted by Cobra/Samar on 2 May 2010
Great gfx.
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Submitted by Digger on 2 May 2010
Excellent multicolour pic! Tunes are great too, need to plug the real C64 after the breakfast! Nice Sunday morning surprise guys!
User Comment
Submitted by Jazzcat on 2 May 2010
Excellent compilation here. Particularly enjoying the second oldschool track (UBISoft unreleased) and also the extended work. Thumbs up!
User Comment
Submitted by Viscid on 2 May 2010
Didn't hear the music until now... but what a wonderful graphic! Damn. ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Hein on 2 May 2010
That's some 0gly scroller screwing Mirage's nice gfx from behind. The music is awesome, typical MoN style, with the individual qualities shining through. Great sunday morning wake up call. Powerhouse is my favourite.
User Comment
Submitted by NecroPolo on 2 May 2010
At last! A music demo that represents the full-width coolness of MoN. 10/10

The scroll kills my eyes. Way too fast but that's the only rant.

Folks, just keep the word and make music like that!

(spotted just now: ...Liljedahl on C64? Great!!!)

Great pic by Mirage. The synth man must be Geir. Next time with a guitar, perhaps? ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Radiant on 2 May 2010
Really, really nice! What a dream team.

The scroller was quite hard to read, but apart from that, top notch.
User Comment
Submitted by Motion on 2 May 2010
@Inge: I guess that makes perfect sense - I just thought I heard a new sequence in there - abviously that's not the case!
User Comment
Submitted by Wile Coyote on 2 May 2010
Very cool gfx.
Tune 4. Crosswords (1988) was my fav.
The other tunes are good too.
User Comment
Submitted by Inge on 2 May 2010
@Motion: Since the entry is locked, Geir must have done it himself.
User Comment
Submitted by Motion on 2 May 2010
Who added Crosswords SID? Isn't the version in this demo re-worked?
User Comment
Submitted by Inge on 2 May 2010
Ah, finally a production where you let those tunes really shine. The rendering of Oro Incenso is awesome, and Drax' Resolution just sound sooo wonderful. Great work Geir!!!
User Comment
Submitted by Fredrik on 2 May 2010
I am totally speechless!
True entertainment and highest quality.
10/10 offcourse.
User Comment
Submitted by Flex on 2 May 2010
Excellent release! Powerhouse-tune really hit me by a storm.
User Comment
Submitted by Stainless Steel on 2 May 2010
Totally outstandingly wicked shit.
User Comment
Submitted by Motion on 1 May 2010
Great imagery, wicked music & cool design, happy times, full of scene spirit. Yay!

Love the Jogeir Liljedahl arrangement! Also, Crosswords - one of my most fondly remembered tunes.

...as for the font - it's legendary! It holds so much scene memory association - it is an 'institution' in itself and helps take this production to a warm and well-acquainted place. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Skate on 1 May 2010
I love you guys!!! :)

Right now I don't have time to review it tune by tune but overall amazing tunes which I can listen for many years.

Mirage, I know how much you like to use musical objects (like notes, piano etc) in your graphics and this one is one of the best of yours dude.

Welcome to the new members. MON needs you. We want more stuff! :)
User Comment
Submitted by Twoflower on 1 May 2010
This contains some awesome music, and a nice image (which actually reminds me of Drax aswell as of Geir) from Mirage.
Too bad about the font - though i'm quite happy this one font was used in a multitude of different expansions.
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