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Dawn Magazine #1
Credits :
| Code | .... | Jak T Rip of C64 Club Berlin, DMAgic, Protovision |
| | | Wotnau of DMAgic |
| Music | .... | 6R6 of Nostalgia, SHAPE |
| | | Compod of Amorphis, Funeral Moon |
| | | CreaMD of React |
| | | da Blondie of Resource |
| | | Danko of Fairlight |
| | | Fanta of Arsenic, Chorus, Oxyron, Plush |
| | | Lars Hoff of Prosonix |
| | | OMP of Offence, Panoramic Designs, Prosonix |
| | | Stefan Hartwig |
| | | Stein Pedersen of Offence, Panoramic Designs, Prosonix |
| | | The Blue Ninja of Protovision |
| | | Thomas Detert of X-Ample Architectures |
| | | Yogibear of Arkanix Labs, Autumn Soft, Protovision, Revive |
| | | Zyron of Genesis Project, Nostalgia, Oxsid Planetary |
| Graphics | .... | Jak T Rip of C64 Club Berlin, DMAgic, Protovision |
| | | JSL of Autumn Soft, Covenant, Creators, Protovision, Raiders of the Lost Empire, Software of Sweden, Tropyx |
| | | ThunderBlade of Bliss |
| Idea | .... | CreaMD of React |
| | | Wotnau of DMAgic |
| Text | .... | Jak T Rip of C64 Club Berlin, DMAgic, Protovision |
| | | Wotnau of DMAgic |
| Charset | .... | CreaMD of React |
| | | Jak T Rip of C64 Club Berlin, DMAgic, Protovision |
| | | ThunderBlade of Bliss |
| NTSC-Fix | .... | Wotnau of DMAgic |
| Concept | .... | Jak T Rip of C64 Club Berlin, DMAgic, Protovision |
| | | Wotnau of DMAgic |
| Interviewed | .... | 6R6 of Nostalgia, SHAPE |
| | | Zyron of Genesis Project, Nostalgia, Oxsid Planetary |
| Test | .... | ThunderBlade of Bliss |
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 27 September 2019
| oo-er, you don't want to know where they made number two =) |
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Submitted by Shine on 12 June 2019
Just curious ... what about the next issue?
WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING!!! :) |
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Submitted by ThunderBlade on 17 March 2016
| Coming back to the intro with the opening gates. 10+ years ago I did the graphics based on the original animation from the game Times of Lore. The idea was to have them fullscreen, but in Hires, kinda because the # of details, zoomed up, should just fit into the color limitations. I think it worked out quite well, however the original intent was to have them more retouched. :) Regardless, the opening doors alone keep me coming back to Dawn, and I will finally play the game they came from, and explore that world. |
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Submitted by Yogibear on 4 December 2015
| Damn! Forgot all about this mag! Nice intro and overall design. From all articles I like the interviews the most! |
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Submitted by Holy Moses on 18 November 2015
| Shame that it don´t work via SD2IEC. Will try it later on a 1541 maybe. |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 13 November 2015
| @Stormy Edge: JTR's mucho-mojo loading system supports almost anything: different charsets, articles which over-write the menu, articles which don't over-write the menu, tunes which are faded out, tunes which are not faded out... And the viewer (display engine) was coded to be as versatile as possible. We just didn't want to use too many charsets only "because we can". :) |
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Submitted by ThunderBlade on 13 November 2015
| Argh! One of the few chapters I didn't read yet, and to be honest I didn't expect this outfit supports a per-chapter-charset. :) Yeah that char was made by LightSide and myself in 1991 (!), based on the credits font of the Airwolf TV series. Question: Can one release things he did into public domain, so that credits are no longer due? ;-)) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 13 November 2015
@Stormy Edge: Commo Do is completely written with a proportionalized version of the AWT charset. Which I though you might have something to do with. ;)
@propfont: Jak T Rip, you rascal! OK, so here's a little story... CreaMD and I had a competition for the best propfont before we even knew a JTR existed. CreaMD's routine required tweaking each charset before it could be used (rotating by 90 degrees), so in the end we decided to use mine. After the engine development started, JTR (who had joined DMagic in the meantime) sent me his, even faster routine, including a demonstration where he showed how much exactly his routine was faster. I was quite vainglorious back then (don't worry, in the meantime I've worked on myself hard, and now I'm perfect), so it took me a few YEARS until I managed to talk to him about it. "How did you code it?" I asked. "How did you manage it?" He started to laugh: "I didn't code it. I just reassembled yours and unrolled one of your loops." That was probably the one time when I felt like laughing my heart out and strangling this guy to death at the same time! |
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Submitted by ThunderBlade on 13 November 2015
| Roman reveals his true character! :) Seriously, I also noticed several times already that a "credit" isn't always equal to a "credit". One has coded 99% of a product and the other one has coded 1%, both get a "credit". In movies, the 1% folks aren't mentioned or appear after 13 minutes of scrolling in the end, in very small letters. :) Btw. why do I get a credit for the charset, I don't remember setting a single pixel on it. Not even the 't'! ;-)) |
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Submitted by Jak T Rip on 13 November 2015
| @Oswald: the routine we used in the end was not the fastest, but the best speed/size compromise. If I remember correctly, both CreaMD and I made a faster routine than Wotnau, but Wotnaus is fast AND small, which is why it was the best fit! ;) |
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Submitted by Oswald on 13 November 2015
"Btw. did anyone notice how fast the proportional routine"
hard to compare bcoz of the blank screen. I have an unreleased routine which feels about this fast. it uses a different unrolled routine to plot chars depending on nr of bit shifts. |
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Submitted by TheRyk on 13 November 2015
normally I'd see it like iAn. But if CreamD explicitly does NOT want to be credited... *shrug*
@Comment flood: Though I was one of the first to leech (&vote 10), I didn't comment yet, so I seize the opportunity to say "great read" ;)
Hopefully we needn't wait another 20 years for next issue |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 12 November 2015
iAN CooG, problem is that my nick was placed alphabetically at the top of the coders list. While, what I did (about 15 years ago is just a little switcher of gfx screens with some music effects for the doors. It's really nothing. A coding cameo in comparison to everything else. I did not code anything for the actual mag engine.
Btw. did anyone notice how fast the proportional routine displayer is in comparison to other magazines? ;-) I dind't compare the later ones, but I'm sure it's in par with the fastest ones of nowadays. In past it was beating everything that was around. Our internal proportional routine competition was great fun. I wish I could relive those times. ;-) |
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 12 November 2015
| plain wrong thinking, if he coded anything for the release, CreaMD should be credited for code. |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 12 November 2015
Alright, now when the comment storm has calmed down (again, thanks everyone for the great feedback!), it's time for a little story.
When we uploaded Dawn #1, we gave a coding credit to CreaMD/React because he had coded the intro.
Two days ago both Jak T Rip and I received a PM from him saying he was removing the credit because people might think he's "somehow responsible" for the main engine, concluding with, "It's your work. You deserve all the credit and awesome feedback."
He explicitly asked us not to restore the credit, but he never asked us not to tell anyone. ;) And anyway, we want you to know that he coded the intro.
Let's cut the crap. Great gesture, mate. Thank you. |
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Submitted by ThunderBlade on 12 November 2015
| Okay... I have updated the German C64 Wiki page on DMAgic I created a while ago... The paragraph about Dawn, the ambitious mag project that never got finished, now reads completely different, of course. :)) Screenshot added aswell. |
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Submitted by akaobi on 12 November 2015
| @Wotnau Thanks for the kind offer! I'd love to ask you later about your great activity and now bless new phase of DMAagic. Best regards from Japan. |
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Submitted by Magic on 11 November 2015
Now this was a surprise! :)
New disksmags are rare.. nice you guys pulled it of.. Greetz from a Vandalism News staff member :) |
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Submitted by Jak T Rip on 11 November 2015
Bob! Thank you for the continuous flow of nice feedback ;-)))
@Skate and also Stormy Edge: I think you know how much your feedback is worth to me.
@Dr.j: Our latest game release, Heroes&Cowards, also features a couple nice and previously unreleased Stefan Hartwig tunes. You can grab them from here: Heroes & Cowards |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 11 November 2015
| @Stormy Edge: So you did find out. :) Great to hear you like Dawn as you're one of those who can imagine how much not only time but also feeling is behind this all! |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 11 November 2015
@Motion: Thanks a lot, glad you like it! Admittedly, preparing non-rectangular pictures and then the layout around them takes some time, so we're happy to hear our readers like it. :)
@Bob: Interesting respondent = potential for an interesting interview. 6R6 = a more than just interesting respondent. :) And thanks for your kind comment in general.
@Skate: Thanks for detecting that we're aiming for writing articles too, not just presenting them. :) Happy to hear you like Dawn! |
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Submitted by Skate on 11 November 2015
| Amazing work guys. I really enjoyed the articles alone (not finished yet, still reading them) but from a coder perspective, you have some naughty stuff which deserves 10/10 immediately. :) |
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Submitted by ThunderBlade on 11 November 2015
| I don't know where to start... Tears in my eyes!!! Finally it's out. Even though I left DMAgic years ago, a part of my heart remained behind and in this project. To see it out finally, and so unexpectedly, really strikes me. It exactly became what we envisioned more than a decade ago! Awesome. Have to go on reading now... |
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Submitted by Dr.j on 11 November 2015
| +1 for using Stefan Hartwig music, haven't heard a tune from him for a long time and forgot how cool he is |
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Submitted by Bob on 11 November 2015
| Very well written interview with 6R6 I really enjoyed that one.. a lot of content wasn't able to read through all though... very interesting topics aswell. and some funny stuff the xmas hahaha... |
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Submitted by Jak T Rip on 10 November 2015
| When switching from notes to emails for communication with my friends, I noticed multiple times that with emails it is much easier to misunderstand and offend each other. I attribute that to the music and general atmosphere that is shared if reader/writer have it the same way incontrast to emails where the setting of reader/writer can be much different. So yeah, having the musics as part of the article was an early design decision ;-) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 10 November 2015
@akaobi: Wow, we've got a reader in Japan! Happy to hear you like the mag! And in case you want to know more about the Forever party, don't hesitate to PM or e-mail me or JTR (and I guess CreaMD would respond too) - we've been there since year 1, or rather triple zero. :)
@Oswald: Yep, quite what both you and CreaMD say. The decision to swim against the mag tide and hard-wire tunes into articles was taken already back when we started working on Dawn. We've always been fascinated by the way C=64 noters work - enhancing the letter with the choice of rasterbars, charsets, music, setting and amplifying the atmosphere. And what else is a diskmag than a bunch of notes? :) Writing an article, we want to create certain emotions, and we choose the music which we think fits the mood of the piece best. Brings the risk of ruining it for someone who has a very different taste for music - but we take it in exchange to make the experience stronger for the imaginary target reader we've got in our minds. And somehow, SID music seems to be more universal in creating those emotions - e.g. JTR and I found out that we have a much more common music taste when it comes to SID than when it comes to Earth music. :) |
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Submitted by Motion on 10 November 2015
| Great work guys and it looks fantastic with the mixed gfx. |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 10 November 2015
| Poopmonster, I'm sure Wotanu will have his own say on this, but as far as I can say im my own word, the tunes are setting the mood and are usually part of the creative process and inspiration. So what you hear is music that was playing in the dawn editor when author was writing/editing the article. |
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Submitted by Dr.j on 10 November 2015
| looking forward for reading the awesome magazine. except of the technical acheivement which described here , i am sure the reading will be light and enjoying . thumbs up for a great issue. hope to more in the near future |
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Submitted by Oswald on 10 November 2015
| btw, great selection of tunes, really nice move to set the mood for each chapter :) |
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Submitted by akaobi on 10 November 2015
| It's a fantastic read! Thank you for releasing the interviews of two great scene musicians/crackers, Zyron and 6R6. Also, I will utilize the mag for studying the history of For8ver. |
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Submitted by Bob on 10 November 2015
| woooh impressive from seeing this only from a web browser (gif animation) now I know what I will do tonight ;) first glance of it looks awesome, fresh nice gfx.. new ideas.... (I love new ways of thinking) I can't wait to get home and read it. |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 10 November 2015
@The Phantom: Thanks a million! Seeing that there are readers who get exactly the kind of kick we were aiming for out of the mag will make preparing the next issue much more fun!
@Dr. Science: Thanks a lot for your kind comment! You hit the point. We were just trying to keep our heads down, come up with interesting texts first and only then play with the graphics. About the interviews... There are two key points for me: 1) The interviewer should be genuinely interested in the interviewee. You should really _want_ to talk to the person and ask (at least mostly) questions you want to know answers to yourself. 2) Research the interviewee in advance. Q&As which start with, "Tell us something about yourself" lose me before they start. When the interviewees can see real interest in themselves, they're much happier to answer - and then interesting conversations happen!
@Shine: You've got it absolutely right about the effort. :) Happy to see people find the results worth it! |
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Submitted by Oswald on 10 November 2015
| Wotnau, no havent been looking just was wondering that badlines would prevent doing this, but then I realized maybe you just skip them :) anyways would be a great pleasure to read an articla about it, as always it must have been atleast 10 times as hard making it, than one thinks :) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 10 November 2015
@GeoAnas, Oswald, alwyz: Thanks, glad you like it!
@alwyz: Happy to hear the NTSC works fine as well on a real machine across the real Pond! Back then ThunderBlade switched VICs in his C=64 only to test whether the PAL/Old NTSC/New NTSC detection worked and everything was displayed correctly. Will have to update the credits. |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 10 November 2015
| @Oswald: Ah, someone's been looking at the code. ;) What you say was level 1. Level 2 was to handle the delays (the actual split happens late, on a sub-cycle level). Level 3 was to handle what I called Neverland or Nowhereland - when switching from multi to hires, for 1/4 of a cycle the VIC is neither in multi, nor in hires. Anyway, we already received a few requests to describe the thing, so we'll prepare an article about it and offer it to some other scene mag (unsurprisingly, we won't release ish #2 next week or month). |
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Submitted by Dr.Science on 10 November 2015
A new mag \o/ ! And with a nice Gate-Opening Scene (anyway, we were first: Zookeeper) :-)
Seriously:
Very nice mag. The layout is exactly how a mag should be - focus on the content. Very enjoyable to read and navigate. The menu is very simple but effective. As each chapter has a nice amount of text, it is absolutely OK to have an own music to each chapter.
I've been reading the ED, the hidden chapter and the two Interviews. I really enjoyed the interviews, absoluetly nice read! WIll check out the rest soonish. As former Mag-Editor, I know how hard it is to fill up a mag with content, so thumbs up!
What others mentioned before: The Charset needs to be improved here and there. |
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Submitted by Shine on 10 November 2015
| WOW ... effort like hell ... really nice reading and nice design ... (esp. the embedded graphics). THUMBS UP!!! :) |
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Submitted by GeoAnas on 10 November 2015
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Submitted by Oswald on 10 November 2015
| hmm.. badline = no splits ? :) otherwise it can be a quite simple sta / stx d016 speedcode with 4 char wide resolution. big balls for making this, congrats :) |
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Submitted by alwyz on 10 November 2015
| Really excellent work guys, glad you saw it through. Looks great on my NTSC machine, and a good read as well. |
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Submitted by The Phantom on 9 November 2015
While I'm still not through everything, this is a pretty fun magazine. Interesting texts and they put a smile on my face.
Everybody should check this out. Works well with WinVice 2.4 (win64 x64 mingw).
Looking forward to the next issue. |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
@Jak T Rip: Nonono, you've got it all wrong, The Phantom made MY day!
@enthusi: What Jak T Rip said. And I bet you didn't have nightmares before releasing your mag. I did. About that once again something will happen and prevent the release. :) |
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Submitted by Jak T Rip on 9 November 2015
Thank you SO MUCH, you all, for all the great comments!
Thank you Phantom, thank you Hoild, thank you Groepaz, thank you spider and thank you a zillion times CreaMD!!
@Enthusi: your mag engine, heng engine and adventure engines still rock! ;-)
@Ian: there is also a new music from Yogibear. At last it was new when I put it into the article ;-) No idea if Yogi couldn't wait to release it in the meantime, though :)
I would have never expected so much feedback, and so much positive feedback. You really made my day, Phantom, when you wrote that you are stuck in the middle of Scener's Christmas. Same for Hoild and I am very much looking forward for your propably very critical judgement after all.
@Joe: yeah, I have my reservations on some of the characters myself. Gotta improve.
@CreaMD: THANK YOU for praising the "courage" in colour combinations. Yes, some are really strange, but I wanted to try out things.
Phew. I'm dead. But happy. |
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Submitted by enthusi on 9 November 2015
Uh, sweet.
Now I dont like my own mag engine that much anymore... |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 9 November 2015
| Groepaz, you managed to cast a cheshire's cat grin on my face. How cool are you. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 9 November 2015
| creamd: come on, all you need is a stable raster and a bit of unrolled code. iirc even the VICE testrepo contains a program that does it :) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
| @Hoild: You're my kind of reader! Just like I wrote below, the goal was to have a solid platform for a magazine, so I'm happy someone will actually read it and judge by the text. Anyway, now you probably know why I've owed you a PM for the last few months. |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 9 November 2015
| Groepaz, I don't know. My memories from intense demowatching times are blurred. That's why I thought we should start a separate CSDB thread, to find out. This routine was sitting in Wotnau's magic chest for years, and it would be quite amazing if it wasn't made by someone else ;-). Fact is, that this level of splitting requires insane discipline, if anyone would be able to do it, that would probably be someone from out of this world like CB. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 9 November 2015
| didnt one of the krestage demos feature hires/multi splits? mmmh :) |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 9 November 2015
Groepaz, I don't have courage for such color combinations, However, I like some of the screens. Pure awesomeness as far as selection of gfx, and layout is concerned. Very playful.
What I would like to point out, and I think we should probably start a CSDB thread about this, is the fact, that first time ever (correct me if I'm wrong) in history of C64 someone uses true multicolor/hires vertical *bitmap* (!) split without 3 char-wide bug. Not to speak about insane code that generates custom display code for every screen. This is a work of a genius and hard worker. |
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Submitted by Hoild on 9 November 2015
| This diskmag was in the making for an epic amount of time -- I still remember Wotnau describing the HIRES/MC mode splitter concept to me at Forever Party/2001. However, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the real value of a diskmag is in its informative content, not in the eye candy. So I am giving it a reading this week with super high expectations before I make my vote. \;] |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 9 November 2015
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Submitted by CreaMD on 9 November 2015
| Groepaz, don't be an ass. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 9 November 2015
| oh i found the hidden chapter - and stopped reading at the "we dont use crossassemblers because its not real" nonsense =P if anything is not real, its an LCD =D |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
@The Phantom: Thank you _SO_MUCH_ for this! Dawn was not meant as a demo but as a platform which would enable a solid presentation of interesting texts - and you're the first person to actually mention one of the texts. Hope you'll like it!
@Joe: Thanks! Comments like this make the time investment worth it for us. And even though we have a few pages of notes on improving our tools for the future, we at least have working versions of all of them at the moment. So yes, we plan a somewhat shorter waiting period before the next issue. :) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
| @Groepaz: First of all, thanks for viewing Dawn on a real C=64. That's what it was done on, and that's what it was done for! I take it that you haven't found the hidden chapter yet because there we state that neither of us can work in emulators or use cross-assemblers - they're just soulless. Dawn was 100% developed on the C=64 and the emulators have always been an afterthought but one we had to make - for some people, it's the only way of keeping touch with the C=64, e.g. because their HW died on them and they can't get a new one, and if we didn't have it, this discussion would be full of people reporting a graphical bug left of most of the pictures. :) Concerning the color combinations: I do admit working on an LCD TV (because all of my 4 CRT monitors died and where I live I just can't get a good replacement piece), but I definitely typed in the Zyron interview on a CRT back in 2002 and didn't have a problem. JTR tested all of the articles about zillion times on his Commodore CRT monitor and didn't see a problem. I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist, I'm just saying we didn't encounter it, even though we prepared the mag on 100% Commodore HW. Anyway, thanks for the comment, will pay even more attention to this in the future. |
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Submitted by The Phantom on 9 November 2015
| Started reading the Christmas scener story.. Sadly, have to get on my way to work.. But looking forward to reading the rest later on... |
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Submitted by Joe on 9 November 2015
| Really lovely! Hope the next issue wont take another 20 years to develope and that someone fixes the lowercase "t", which looks too much like a "+" at the moment.. ;) |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 9 November 2015
i knew it was a mistake to keep x64 when x64sc was made... it works just fine in x64sc from the 2.4 release. and it will never work in x64 or ccs since they are not completely (sub)cycle exact.
thumbs up for the content, but perhaps you should care more about the real thing than making it work on broken emulators - eg some of the color combinations used are terrible on a CRT (light blue on light grey....wtf :() |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
| @spider-j: Can very well be that the future we're talking about in the editorial has happened in the meantime for VICE. I'm also using a 2.4 build, pershaps and older one, but need to use the fix, and CCS needs it too. And as there's always a chance someone's using an old version of an emu and is happy with it (e.g. for capturing videos, I heavily prefer VICE 2.3), we'll need to keep the fix in the mag for the future too. |
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Submitted by spider-j on 9 November 2015
wow, massive content.
but emulator issue seems to bee quite strange: my vice displays the error only if you say "YES"... if you say "NO" everything looks fine.
VICE Version 2.4.20, rev 29894M |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 9 November 2015
Ian: 3 new tunes from me... what a comeback ;-))
As far as I remember Richard (still alive) already released Ambient and other worktunes with my tweaked version of dmc editor. DMC5.0+. ;-) |
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Submitted by Wotnau on 9 November 2015
| Re new SIDs by CreaMD: Affirmative. Theology of Civilization and Streets of Philadelphia were done back in 2000 and 1998 respectively and always planned to be released with the mag. CreaMD was so kind as to never release them anywhere else (thanks, mate!). The tune from the Bonus section (called Ambient) we took from a music disk CreaMD shared with us when he was still a member of DMagic, and now we expect him to kill us for it because he isn't too fond of his old tunes and doesn't want them in HVSC. He fears they would dilute his superstardom status. ;) @Ian: Trapdoor Pt. 2 is also a "new" tune - it's an extended remix of the original one, edited by me (the background story to it is in the Zyron interview). |
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 9 November 2015
| yes, 3 new tunes by CreaMD |
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Submitted by Shine on 8 November 2015
| I dont' find the SID from the menu (Conan cover) ... is this new ? |
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Submitted by CreaMD on 8 November 2015
| Wow. It's out!! I take it as a late birthday present. Thank you guys. Gotta check immediately. |
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