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2023-06-06 11:36
Knight Rider

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 116
Event id #3294 : X-2024

I was having a discussion with a few guys over beers in X'2023 and the compos. I was telling about my days as OR8 pilot in the RC world where we had junior, hobby and pro categories for the races.

To make it abit more motivational the people/groups who aren't 20 members strong each with 30+ years of demo coding experience it might be worth while considering other options ?

eg. some of the ideas we discussed:

. Having a pro (ie previous winner category) and hobby section so that contributors are compared to peers of similar experience
. Splitting the voting/ranking for 1 filers from multi disk entries
. Newcomer award for those individuals or teams who never submitted to X before
 
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2023-06-08 15:04
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1382
From now on, each entry must be created by a single scener who wrote the entire thing including tools by using the action replay monitor, one entry per scener.

Workstages in the form of a twitch stream of the desk in the codermusiciangraphicians bedroom from the past seven years.
2023-06-08 15:18
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3140
> using the action replay monitor
pfft, the real scener(TM) uses his own built cart monitor, not using pre-existing ones, because they are lame by definition and don't work how he wants anyway.
2023-06-08 15:43
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11154
POKEs baby
2023-06-08 15:54
Boogaloo

Registered: Aug 2019
Posts: 21
And the demo must be called "The 4 Yorkshire men".
2023-06-08 18:02
Wile Coyote
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Registered: Mar 2004
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@Burgler i think you possibly failed to understand the point i was making. Sure 'Collaboration is key in the demo-scene' but where do you draw the line? ..a single entry into X spanning 20 disk sides, resulting in a guaranteed no.1 spot and everyone becomes a winner ;D

@Raistlin If you re_read my post, multiple demos using a pre_existing loader would be fine. If someone coded a new loader, multiple Demos would not be allowed to use the exact same loader until after the Compo is over.
2023-06-08 18:08
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2856
Quoting Wile Coyote
If someone coded a new loader, multiple Demos would not be allowed to use the exact same loader until after the Compo is over.
So... resident portion at different addresses okay? Or a slightly different set of options to produce non-identical binaries? :)
2023-06-08 18:31
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1382
I'm relieved to see that now Transmission64 3rd Edition (2022) is over, everyone has Wile Coyote's royal permission to use BitPickler 1.0.0 for compos without checking if anyone else has dibs :P

(assuming the same rules apply for crunchers as for loaders)
2023-06-08 18:57
Wile Coyote
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Posts: 646
@Krill now you are being silly! ;P
2023-06-08 19:06
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2856
Quoting Wile Coyote
@Krill now you are being silly! ;P
Am i now! But really, your solution is looking for a problem.
2023-06-08 19:38
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 578
Quote: Quoting Raistlin
IRQ loaders are one problem. How many used Bitbreaker loader this time? Quite a few I believe..?
So? What's your point? Why is this a problem? :)


I’m not sure what the argument is now :-)

I don’t want coders working on more than one demo, of course, but it can’t be policed, especially in the age of crediting loaders :-)

The other problem with only allowing a coder to work on one thing: somebody could rip code from the 50 “top” coders.. post a demo with these ripped parts in, sending it to Burglar the very minute that submissions are open. Does this then succeed in disallowing any further demos from those 50 people?

As I say.. I wish people would stop trying to change the rules… there’s usually an ulterior motive ;p
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