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Nordic Scene Review #4   [2005]

Nordic Scene Review #4 Release Date :
11 December 2005

Type :
C64 Diskmag

AKA :
The Dry Season

User rating:*******___  7/10 (5 votes)   See votestatistics

Credits :
Code .... iopop of Triad
Music .... Zabutom of Fairlight
Text .... Nightlord of Civitas, Glance
  Puterman of Fairlight
  Twoflower of Triad


SIDs used in this release :
Nordic Scene Review #4(/MUSICIANS/Z/Zabutom/Nordic_Scene_Review_4.sid)

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/13105/Nordic_Scene_Review_#04.d64 (downloads: 2197)
ftp://ftp.scs-trc.net/pub/c64/Magazines/Nordic_Scene_Review/NSR_04.zip (downloads: 310)

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User Comment
Submitted by V-12 on 13 January 2006
Finally I've readed this mag and I really like this issue. Really nice articles and good revievs. Also I agree totally with Puterman because I dislike blogs and online sid compos. Keep'em doing this good work on this magazine!
User Comment
Submitted by Facade on 13 December 2005
Puterman, sorry, appearantly I misunderstood your comment about "rather reading the crap in scene world or arachnophobia than more well formulated and insightful stuff on a blog".

Still, no bad feelings, NSR rocks and you know it.
User Comment
Submitted by Puterman on 13 December 2005
TDJ: Oh, the irony of it all! Seriously though, learn to read. I said nothing about the value of blogs or diskmags.
User Comment
Submitted by nightlord on 12 December 2005
ALIH: As for my case. I do not think SIDCompo is any less noble than a normal Party Compo. I think Puterman has a point as you agree about c64 files, but personally that is also insignificant to me. Maybe I shall further clarify the sad fact that I have lost interest in any party's music compo as well. So I usually do not go through the musics in party disks. That also covers the music collections even. My fellow musician sceners have every right to hate me for this and I did say that I respect their right to release stuff on their own. especially given that it is unfair to many musicians and graphicians that they need a coder to finish his job before they get proper attention for their work. But if we are discussing things like plasma effects falling out of fashion, personally I have a right to think the time has come for us to discuss about a menu and a group of songs should be in line together with single music releases in party and internet compos.

So after all this dark text I guess it is clear that my purist stance is not just against SIDCompo at all but all the SID musics in isolation. Unless they are packed as creatively as th Tinnitus guys with their "As far as the eye can see"
User Comment
Submitted by Facade on 12 December 2005
Nice comments about diskmags being 'worth' more than blogs because of their realness - especially given the fact that 90% of the people read those diskmags in an emulator anyway.
User Comment
Submitted by Puterman on 12 December 2005
ALIH: As I see it, the difference is that the tunes in the Sidcompos aren't
meant for the C-64. To lots of people that's an absolutely pointless remark,
as they're just interesting in listening to the music. To me it isn't,
especially not as it's masquerading as a C-64 compo.

As for complaints about the missing C-64 files: been there, done that, got a
t-shirt that says "PSID is a native C-64 format", so I gave up. It's just not
a compo for me, and that's basically all I was saying in the editorial, except
for some bitter remarks about how fucking lazy and asslame people are who can't even be bothered to run stuff on their C-64s.

The facts that it's held on the internet and is only for music don't bother me
at all.
User Comment
Submitted by A Life in Hell on 12 December 2005
Btw, a philisophical question on music contests for the NSR writers

Most musicians make tunes which are explicitly designed to be listened to, rather than a demo - the proof of this is dedicated music competitions at parties. Which brings me to the question of how exactly, other than taking place on the internet instead of in a phsyical location, is the sid competition at c64.sk different to the sid competition at floppy, lcp, breakpoint, et al - at least from my outsiders perspective. Let's look for a moment at the similarities:

- One executable per tune, not a single c64 program that would be "Suitable for running on a real c64". Yep, that's just like all parties.
- A canonical compo machine for everyone to listen to. Yep, all parties have _the_ compo machine - the only difference here is that the compo machine is my c64s at my house instead of someone else's c64s in a hall.
- Some good tunes, some bad tunes - again, exactly like every music contest at every party.
Now, I agree that the prg's should go up instantly with the sid files - and you could sure argue that CreamD dropped the ball there, although to be fair few to no-one complained at the time (indeed, if I thought that this was actually a problem for people, I would have put up prg's with the oggs since I had to make them anyhow).

Now of course, as nightlord points out, it is possible to be purist and say "well, I don't like music outside of demos, therefore I am going to rail against the sidcompo", and the first half of that is a valid point of view to have - my eyes are tarnished by me being a musician first and a coder second (and a writer a distant third), and hence a lot of the time I'm more interested in the music than the demo itself (and indeed, the reason NSR was already running for me to be able to check what you guys wrote again was that I was listening to the music :). Perhaps this makes me a part of the sid subscene... I've maintained for a while that I'm not a scener, so perhaps I shouldn't even be commenting on the text in nordic scene review, but I thought that the elements of a traditional music contest being used as a reason to critisise the sidcompo - because either (a) it dares to be held on the internet, or (b) it dares to be only for music and not demos - was interesting as I thought about it more.
User Comment
Submitted by DCMP on 11 December 2005
I like this diskmag, because it has balls, though sometimes it feels like a subject is given a little too much time..
User Comment
Submitted by JackAsser on 11 December 2005
Great mag!

@2F: Regarding my color scheme on the twister part in LCP Memories. I tried 6 different color schemes and gave it as a preview to various sceners. There was no scheme that all could agree on so I simply gave up. I seriously thought of adding an editor mode to that part letting you change the colors as you wished but unfortunatly I was too lazy. =)

Anyway, thanks once again for a superb mag!
User Comment
Submitted by DJ Gruby on 11 December 2005
That is a great mag (am I repeating myself, eh?)! Thumbs up!

Ps. Puterman, you've promised me not to release it before "Attitude #9" is out! =)
User Comment
Submitted by blackdroid on 11 December 2005
Nice articles to read once again. thumbs up.
User Comment
Submitted by Tch on 11 December 2005
Reading is not the right word,it´s more like being in a conversation! 8D
Hmm,can I have the old char back?
Finished it too fast for my liking.. ;)

Thanx for not slaughtering Phoenix. 8)
User Comment
Submitted by Radiant on 11 December 2005
State of the art. Nice music.
User Comment
Submitted by A Life in Hell on 11 December 2005
I'm still in love with NSR in a carnal way, and this issue only serves to strengthen that attraction. The addition of a readable font adds even more to what was already one of the best mags around.

I'm over blogs too... Oh yeah, readable font!! woo!!

p.s. what is up with 8x8 plasmas, anyhow?
User Comment
Submitted by Scout on 11 December 2005
Cheers for this ever pleasant to read magazine!
Also cheers for the positive review of Accumulator.
I can assure you that there won't be any 8x8 plasma's in future SCL productions =)
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