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Borderline Pac-Man 92% [2021] |
Released At :
Borderline 2021 Compo
Achievements :
C64 Demo Competition at Borderline 2021 Compo : #1
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Pokefinder.org
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Submitted by Wile Coyote on 20 January 2022
Amazing!
A little extra speed would be good. |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 29 September 2021
| Shouldnt borderline Pac-Man collect razor blades though? |
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Submitted by iAN CooG on 29 September 2021
"The ability to actually play the games is considered a nice side effect"
- Nicola Salmoria |
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Submitted by Scarzix on 29 September 2021
10 for idea and getting it done!
7 for playability, WHY does it move so slow? I wanna play it. Btw. Sound shouldn't play when there is no pills being eaten. Also I had hoped for a little die and start jingle from Metal.
But I decided to give this a 10 nomatter, in hope that we will see a 120% version with speed and more sound. |
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Submitted by KAL_123 on 26 March 2021
| Great and interesting to see, that something like this is feasible at all. |
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Submitted by Raistlin on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by bepp on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by Frantic on 25 March 2021
| This goes straight into my precious "special stuff" folder. :D |
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Submitted by HCL on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 25 March 2021
That codebase page is a bit misleading - it shows the limits of the image the VIC produces, which is considerably larger than what a (properly calibrated) monitor or TV will display (its basically what "full border" is in VICE).
And yes, this is why we created this tool :) |
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Submitted by VIC on 25 March 2021
| @Groepaz: sorry to hear that - we only tested on Rex's monitor and my B&O MX8000 - That people actually try to play the game is much appreciated, and we will consider your input for the 101% version :) |
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Submitted by Rex on 25 March 2021
For this Borderline release I have of course fiddled with my monitor controls to aid my testing - which is why overscan is visible on my screenshot.
My goal for the release was to utilize as much of the border as I possibly could, to make the coolest possible "all border" effect and to make the code task more challenging (eg. putting 9 sprites on each visible line).
I used the following sources plus VICE full borders and my own monitor to help decide the limits of the border graphics:
- https://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:visible_area
- https://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=11&topicid=18868&showallposts=1
@Groepaz I will try out Borderpolizei and report some numbers back. It will be quite interesting to have a better database with actual limits of visible pixels. |
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Submitted by Honcho on 25 March 2021
| I think we all pushed a bit on the playability side for this compo, I surely did with mine and more so than here, but fully appreciate the challenge as I know it's not great on a proper setup. Guess the spirit of the compo got the better of us ;) Btw, a great release! |
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 25 March 2021
Quote:In this case the playable part of the playfield is fully visible on a standard CRT
one row of dots on the right side is completely invisible on the screenshot shine posted. it looks similar here on my 1701 (On 1701/2 the borders are really very narrow compared to other monitors, just a few pixels more than one sprite). |
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Submitted by F7sus4 on 25 March 2021
"Monitor displays more overscan than it should" ≠ "there are more lines in the screenshot than VIC will display", because logic.
However, my results on real hardware (both 1084 and s-video+LCD) are closer to Shine's rather than Rex's, yet still perfectly playable. <3 |
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Submitted by VIC on 25 March 2021
@Groepaz: ..to follow up on Rex's comment; we do test our stuff on real Hardware, and I kind of wonder where you get the "if you ever" from - do you have some historical data which suggest otherwise?
In this case the playable part of the playfield is fully visible on a standard CRT, and thus playable - the outer boundaries can only be seen on some monitors and VICE. It wouldn't really be cool if we didn't use what we could of the borders ;) |
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Submitted by Shine on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 25 March 2021
| @rex: It'd be nice if you'd check out Borderpolizei and report back your measurements - I'd be really surprised if that monitor is properly calibrated (see the pdf) (actually your screenshot shows that it displays part of the overscan that shouldnt be visible at all) |
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Submitted by Rex on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by Mixer on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 25 March 2021
| Technically great - but it really makes me wonder if you guys ever test on real equipment - it looks like the "screenshot" shows more lines than the VIC will display even. |
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Submitted by F7sus4 on 25 March 2021
| Double u tea eph, total pwnage. |
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Submitted by AMB on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by Oswald on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by JackAsser on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by MCM on 25 March 2021
| Retro 4ever ! Pure code porn !! What a great idea ! woooow ! |
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Submitted by celticdesign on 25 March 2021
| =?= W~T~F =?= and OMFG!!! |
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Submitted by Rex on 25 March 2021
| @Oswald as Raz hints the effect shows 9 sprites per line on the visible lines. |
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Submitted by Raz on 25 March 2021
| @Oswald: Rex may want to comment on that himself, so I'll just point to the "400x292 pixels" stated on the title screen as a hint =) |
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Submitted by Oswald on 25 March 2021
| uber cool! why only every 2nd line ? design choice ? speed is bad indeed but I guess its not easy to draw bobs into sprites in a few rasterlines + game logic :) |
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Submitted by FABS on 25 March 2021
| That's an amazing idea!! Well done!!! |
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Submitted by Shogoon on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by Bob on 25 March 2021
| this is just brilliant WTF!! speechless. |
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Submitted by Trap on 25 March 2021
| The camel toe is big on this one <3 |
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Submitted by Joe on 25 March 2021
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Submitted by Monte Carlos on 25 March 2021
| Camel power! ᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ |
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Submitted by grasstust on 25 March 2021
| Speed this up 500% and we have a winner! |
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Submitted by Jammer on 25 March 2021
| Insane! I have only two complaints - pacman doesn't wrap between borders and it could all be a little faster ;) |
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Submitted by zzarko on 24 March 2021
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Submitted by TheRyk on 24 March 2021
| omfg another killer entry! <3 |
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Submitted by 𝘁𝗡𝗚 on 24 March 2021
| I like the idea and effort :D Looking forward to a full version :) |
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