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Median   [2021]

Median Released by :
Lethargy [web]

Release Date :
11 September 2021

Type :
C64 Demo

Released At :
Function 2021

Achievements :
Mixed Demo Competition at Function 2021 :  #2

User rating:*********_  9.4/10 (37 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  9.6/10 (9 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Schedar of Lethargy
  Sei of Lethargy
  Strepto of Lethargy
  Visage of Lethargy
Music .... Vincenzo of Lethargy, Molecoola, Rebels, SIDRIP Alliance, Singular
Graphics .... Grass of Avatar, Digital Monastery, Hokuto Force, Lethargy, Resistance
  Leon of Chorus, Lethargy, Resource, Singular
  Strepto of Lethargy
Idea .... Strepto of Lethargy
Charset .... Grass of Avatar, Digital Monastery, Hokuto Force, Lethargy, Resistance
Linking .... Strepto of Lethargy
  Visage of Lethargy
Concept .... Gargaj
Loader .... Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG
Directory Art .... Grass of Avatar, Digital Monastery, Hokuto Force, Lethargy, Resistance

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http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/218217/Median [Lethargy].zip (downloads: 724)
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/218303/Median.sid (downloads: 56)

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User Comment
Submitted by Wap on 28 June 2022
For maximum satisfaction I suggest dowloading the final version:
Median (Final)
User Comment
Submitted by Jak T Rip on 20 January 2022
Godly. 10. Also fantastic music!
User Comment
Submitted by vincenzo on 11 October 2021
Live capture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCBrTvmBG_A
User Comment
Submitted by ChristopherJam on 20 September 2021
Seriously impressive port, and yes - it does also show there's still plenty of scope for broadening the design space of what we see from new productions.

Nice work all!
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Submitted by Gargaj on 17 September 2021
So let me chime in and offer some clarity:

- Hungary is still in Europe, no matter how hard we try against that :)
- I had a conversation with Visage a few months ago where he asked for permission about converting "a" demo, but not specifically naming which one. I had a pretty good guess which one though, so it wasn't a HUGE surprise.
- As a consequence, no source assets were provided to Lethargy - I would imagine all of it was created from scratch just based on the video of the original.
- I am very happy that this exists, because I was never proud with the original one (I always felt like I wasn't the right person to do that, it clearly would've needed someone with more motion graphics skill) but on the C64 just the platform alone validates its existence.

It also showed me that there is this huge market vacuum for people to more "modern" feeling C64 demos that don't take the existing C64 traditions into account and instead do something that's more based on modern design and motion graphics - basically what Sander has been doing for years. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 16 September 2021
Thanks for the comparison - i was wondering myself how similar those two are.

That said, i dig the result. A lot of C64 Demos are seriously lacking in the sync department, so thumbs ups for that. Even if its not super original :)
User Comment
Submitted by vincenzo on 16 September 2021
@Carrion, check his comment on Pouet: https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=89850#c930565
User Comment
Submitted by Carrion on 16 September 2021
seeing this side by siad I can say even more - Wow!
Congrats guys! I can imagine Gargaj's face while this was on.

For me this is the essence of demoscene. Code + music + visuals in this case is more than just 1+1+1.
For me there is creativity in adapting this demo to c64 - no doubt.

and btw: [...]We in Europe[...]
is a bit too far IMO!
User Comment
Submitted by Flex on 16 September 2021
@Joe, I think you're being a bit too strict here now - Lethargy has proven their imagination and originality many times before. I'm enjoying this cool C64 version very much!
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Submitted by vincenzo on 16 September 2021
Comparison between PC and C64 version:
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Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
We do demos in different ways, you took your from the PC. We in Europe think about origin and walk the line of that artistic tradition.
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Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
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Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
Well Ian if one doesn't have imagination, one can do this all day!
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 16 September 2021
" just ported demos " sounds like it's some easy shit to do.
I praise the courage, effort and the dedication in doing it instead.
User Comment
Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
So hope next demo is C64 true real original stuff!
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Submitted by Visage on 16 September 2021
We can say, that this is the port of a PC demo for C64, and this was a surprise for the HU scene on Function.
So @Joe. The original concept belongs to Gargaj, thus to a PC demo, and there was no correlation, it was a surprise for him as well on the party.
With remaking this demo on C64, we challenged only ourselves (and our coding capabilities) and don’t worry, there will still be a lot of original content on the C64.
User Comment
Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
Well be good to know, so this is not just some "Desert Dream" project again.
Would kill my heart really thinking what the C64 scene would have to give if people just ported demos.
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 16 September 2021
Gargaj was involved in the PC demo at least
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Submitted by Joe on 16 September 2021
Just a question which raised since I saw this was actually originally a Windows demo.
Is there any correlation between involved members/groups or is this just a c64 port?
User Comment
Submitted by AMB on 16 September 2021
WOW and WOW again. New School C64 Demo Of Choice. Congrats and thank you for this amazing piece.
User Comment
Submitted by Mibri on 12 September 2021
Ohhhh - I too missed the fact that it’s a C64 version of an existing PC demo. Still very impressive!
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Submitted by HCL on 12 September 2021
Yeah, very slick!
User Comment
Submitted by Jammer on 12 September 2021
Ok, I clearly missed the fact it's a remake but, actually, it doesn't change that much ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Carrion on 12 September 2021
oh wow! this is so kool!
User Comment
Submitted by Mibri on 12 September 2021
I'm definitely seeing a slice of Logicoma-esque style here, and that's a very good thing! A fabulous and wildly original production from one of my favourite groups.
User Comment
Submitted by Xiny6581 on 12 September 2021
Defiantly a fresh demo with a great concept. Keep up the awesome work guys :)
User Comment
Submitted by katon on 12 September 2021
Definitely a great production, it's very fun to watch!
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Submitted by Jammer on 12 September 2021
Logicoma and h0ffman are strong with this one! :D But, seriously, what a fresh and fantastic production! Definite MTV award for video directing <3

Just be careful with that Samar logo, mind you. LOLz! ;)

And totally no problem with flip disk - you guys are just getting old and not that bright anymore about subtle hints ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Honcho on 12 September 2021
A fantastic demo, and great to meet some of you at Function! Visage, lots of love and see you at the next one!
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 12 September 2021
Fresh! I like it!
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Submitted by JCH on 12 September 2021
I really like this demo. Refreshingly different.
User Comment
Submitted by Slaxx on 12 September 2021
Well done and fun to watch!
User Comment
Submitted by Flotsam on 12 September 2021
F*cking nice!
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Submitted by Trap on 12 September 2021
Supercool design. I felt that you were trying to squeeze a PC demo into a C64. A lot of great a ideas in there. Yeah, the turn disk also had my baffled for a second. Congrats on a great release.
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Submitted by Joe on 12 September 2021
Superb demo! It's fantastic to see how animated demos with great concepts take the whole idea of demo art to another level!
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Submitted by KAL_123 on 12 September 2021
Nice demo with some innovations in the things, that go on at the screen. Looks fresh and cool, i like it.
User Comment
Submitted by The Shocker on 12 September 2021
@iAN CooG: Yeah, the disk symbol is tiny, should have been fullscreen to be more intuitive :-)

Edit: Awesome demo, btw. Congrats!
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 12 September 2021
ok, not intuitive at all.
User Comment
Submitted by Båtsman on 12 September 2021
iAN CooG: Flip the disk then the loading is complete :D
User Comment
Submitted by iAN CooG on 12 September 2021
I can't get it to load in either VICE X64sc 3.2, GTK VICE 3.5 or Hoxs 1.105, track 18 spinning forever after the grey bar fills completely.
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