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Released by :
Onslaught [web]
Release Date :
5 February 2006
Type :
C64 Crack
Videosystem: NTSC fixed
Proper release: OK
Properties: Import
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Credits :
| Crack | .... | 6R6 of Blues Muz', Nostalgia, Onslaught, SHAPE |
| Trainer | .... | 6R6 of Blues Muz', Nostalgia, Onslaught, SHAPE |
| Original Supply | .... | Jazzcat of First Blood Entertainment, Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, Vandalism News Staff |
| NTSC-Fix | .... | 6R6 of Blues Muz', Nostalgia, Onslaught, SHAPE |
| Linking | .... | 6R6 of Blues Muz', Nostalgia, Onslaught, SHAPE |
| Bug-Fix | .... | 6R6 of Blues Muz', Nostalgia, Onslaught, SHAPE |
| Docs | .... | Jazzcat of First Blood Entertainment, Onslaught, Onslaught-Antiques, Vandalism News Staff |
Intro used in this crack:
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 6 February 2006
Wanderer: Sure. That's your most sensible post here. Regarding your release, I just expected more from you considering you released it _after_ the two other versions. I apologise for one thing; holding my expectations of you as high as I did.
Regarding making comments on cracks or on the cracking scene in general, I think I'm easily in a valid position to express myself.
Judge me all you want but do it in PM's instead of boring everyone with your trolling-rants. |
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Submitted by Style on 6 February 2006
haha... like Dave hasnt seen plebs like you come and go over 16 years wdr... the guy is all scene. You can act like an asshole and degrade his contributions all you want, he'll still be here long after youve lost interest (again).
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Submitted by A3 on 6 February 2006
| No your wrong, the scene doesn't need you Wanderer, self appointed wares remover. |
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Submitted by V-12 on 6 February 2006
| My own opinion is that cracking scene is death and I see no point for trying to refresh it. Better focus on create real scene productions like demos for example, if there is still someone to compete with. Releasing new cracks or previews was good in 80's/90's. Now it's pathetic. |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| LOL. You're an amusing one. I guess you miss quite a few details on what I do in the scene, but like I care if you know or not. I'm not justifying anything here. You seem to know everything already, oh knowledgeable one. |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
Wanderer running his mouth as usual.
In the cracking scene the original supplier and Hacker*Phreaker were very important to the group. I do both. These jobs are JUST as important as all others. A good group needs good crackers, good suppliers and good codes.
Go and fill some other forum with your dribble. |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
Wanderer: well, when you look at the three releases. The last one that made it out was your version. Which happens to be the poorest. Haha. Strangely, with Ballooncy 2 it was the opposite, the Urine version was the last one released and it was the best.
Who really loses? LOL!
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
| You are wrong. But that's not important, you can chat with iopop about that later. What's important is that we managed to amuse you with our conversation. And that you acknowledge the love both me and Jazzcat harbour for games. Points are not important. Principles, however, is. |
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Submitted by Twoflower on 5 February 2006
This is about the best reading i've had in a long time. You two guys are amazing. I mean, really amazing. I find it nice that there still are two people (the same people which made up the firstrelease-rules, ehem) who still find the firstrelease prestige important. I also like the concept of this desperate two-man struggle to keep the firstreleasescene alive.
This while I reckon 6R6 and Iopop (who actually did the cracking, and cares about bringing the scene a good game...) don't care shit. Correct me if i'm wrong. |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
| Since I reached an agreement with Jazzcat, this discussion ends here for me. |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
| I'll be active on IRC in about 1 hour and 10 minutes. Catch you then. I hope to see the TRIAD version moved from incomming on GP until then... |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
Looking forward to the chat rather than flooding a public channel with boring bullshit.
Anyway, one thing I'm sure of, Wanderer's version kinda suxx. ;)
LOL. regarding our "superior" version. As I said, it was beside the point, just a bonus. :) |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
I am not ignoring your messages, I am working. I'll gladly discuss this with you when I have the time.
In the meantime, you can move our release from incomming on GP. And Wanderer's to, as that one is re-uploaded aswell. Fair should be fair...
And about your "superiour" version, that is totally irrelevant in this case. Your version is nice, but that has nothing to do with firstrelease or not. Although, I would mark the levelskip & choose level cheats as doublecheats, that to is irrelevant in this discussion. Let peoople decide for themselves what version they like best. |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
Well, it's not about defeat, as there is none. Anyone can see which version is on the majority of sites and anyone can CLEARLY see which is the more quality version.
Anyway, Triad did an okay version of the game, so did Onslaught. Not much more to say from my side, just hoping you will chat on IRC instead of ignoring my messages.
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
Hmm, it seems you are the one taking this too serious, not accepting defeat. Our release was made hours before GTW put it on their site, for those who wonder.
Looking at the timestamp on TDD, your version was uploaded today (after midnight) while ours was uploaded yesterday. Thus, why do you have the same releasedate as we do? Not that it has any relevance as 24 hours has not passed yet, just a funny sidenote.
Anyway, as you are an operator on GP, perhaps you could explain why our version just disappeared from there, when it was uploaded and found in incomming this morning? If not, you can atleast move our release now, since it's re-uploaded, in case a mistake was made. But you wont do that, will you? I call that abusing your status, not treating all groups the same.
About Banana Republic, I have mailed the siteops and asked how come our version, that was uploaded there first, cant be seen there.
Here is an extract of my WS_FTP log that prove that I did indeed upload to TDD and Banana Republic yesterday, aswell as GP this morning.
2006.02.05 13:05 B E:\Fungus2_RELEASE\Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip --> ftp.scs-trc.net /pub/c64/incoming/Games Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip
2006.02.05 13:05 B E:\Fungus2_RELEASE\Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip --> ftp.elysium.pl /incoming/games Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip
2006.02.06 07:59 B E:\Fungus2_RELEASE\Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip --> c64.rulez.org /pub/incoming/c64 Fungus2_plus3_TRIAD.zip
I think that says it all. Sure, siteops can make mistakes, but this is just one mistake too much to make sense. Point is, I didn't do any mistake anyway. |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| LOL dude. You take things so seriously. Of course the rules mean online. I will re-write them for you if you like so it is clear for next time. Regarding Antidote, should I upload there too? LOL. Get a life. |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
Rules never stated that releases has to be moved from incomming. We can't put everything in hands of siteadmins that might not be available when a release is uploaded. If a release is uploaded, it is uploaded. Unlike on a BBS, where the file is available instantly.
Fact is, the TRIAD version WAS uploaded on Banana Republic at the same time as on TDD. Why it's not there now is very strange, and I mailed they admins to check wth them.
Why our release was deleted from incomming on GP is also strange. When I uploaded the TRIAD version there, the Wanderer version was also in incomming. Now, none of them are to be seen on GP. Since 24 hours hasn't passed yet, they should not have been deleted. But, as I re-uploaded the TRIAD version, the responsible party on GP can make up for their mistake... |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| LOL. But dude. The ONS version is not even in the incoming directory. It is in the public directory. Jeez. |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
How come the TRIAD version is not on Banana Republic when I uploaded it there yesterday myself, at the same time as I uploaded to TDD? I saw it in incomming this morning, ain't that a bit strange?
I couldn't connect to GP yesterday, but uploaded the release there this morning, but it's not even in incomming now. Ain't that strange...?
Anyway, instead of accusing anyone of anything, I re-uploaded it to both GP and Banana Republic. Since it's not 24 hours since it was released first (by TRIAD, or certainly not by ONS), TRIAD is now on the majority of the FTP sites and Antidote. That was what counted, according to you... |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
To start with:
Triad version is not even on Banana Republic and GP. Antidote and TDD is the only places. ONS version is on TDD, GP, Banana Republic and CSDB. AND it is ntsc fixed. AND it is a better version anyway.
Check the sites dude! You need some glasses maybe. ;)
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
I read from the ONSLAUGHT website:
VN counts these sites as OFFICIAL for uploading your firstreleases:
TDD
GP
Banana Republic
Antidote
It says NOTHING about csdb, and we were first on 3 of those 4 places! So, since VN#44 AND your website state these rules, I suggest you follow them! Besides, you uploaded your release to 2 FTP sites after us and not on Antidote, while we were first on 2 FTP stes AND Antidote. So, you dont have your release on MORE places than us either, that's a 3-3, while we were surely first. NTSC points you deserve though, ofcourse.
Anyone in doubt can check: http://www.atlantis-prophecy.org/onslaught/php/listrules.php
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| Taper, you miss the point. It is "majority" and ONS are on the majority of sites. Sorry dude. Also, our version is clearly superior to the Triad version, not that that point has anything to do with claiming official "first release" but it is certainly a bonus. :) |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
| I read the rules in VN#44, it says TDD, Banana Republic and GP, aswell as Antidote. We were first on TDD, Banana Republic and Antidote, so... |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| The only sites counted, as stated in the rules for many many months now is TDD, GP and CSDB. The 24 hour rule in regards to these sites means the ONS version is first. And yes, nice competition. ;) |
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Submitted by taper on 5 February 2006
| Actually, TRIAD released our version many hours before and uploaded it to TDD, Banana Republic, the telnet boards and spread via mail, so this would be the official ntsc-fix, not firstrelease. Nice competition, though! :) |
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Submitted by Jazzcat on 5 February 2006
| This is the official first release of Fungus II. Uploaded to the majority of 'official' list sites within 24 hours from the initial first release. |
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