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Return of the Mutant Camels   [1987]

Return of the Mutant Camels Released by :
Triad [web]

Release Date :
30 August 1987

Type :
C64 Crack

Revenge II

User rating:awaiting 8 votes (7 left)   See votestatistics

Credits :
Crack .... Mr. Z
Trainer .... Mr. Z
Original Supply .... Zcram of Triad

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/39169/REVENGE.D64 (downloads: 930)

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User Comment
Submitted by T.M.R on 7 April 2007
Triad didn't actually make a mistake on the name, they used the one on MAD cover artwork, which says "Jeff Minter's Revenge II" and the Revenge 2 title is the one it was distributed under.
User Comment
Submitted by Jon on 7 April 2007
Whatever. Find your own Triad shit and save the Freud crap for someone who cares.
User Comment
Submitted by Tao on 7 April 2007
@Ninjasbane: My... You really have a short fuse, don't you?

"since you have taken it upon yourself to badger me and ROYALLY PISS ME OFF for no reason other than some shitty assed filename semantic bullshit"

Right... I asked you, in a civil manner, to please upload files as .prg instead of .d64 (something that should be even less of a workload), reasonably (unless you have only one file/floppy, which seems highly unlikely). I don't see how that could be construed as badgering. And I've already, in length, explained the reasoning behind it. If you actually read through it, instead of exploding, I think you'll understand the reasoning behind it.
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Submitted by Jon on 7 April 2007
What the hell for? Triad couldn't even be bothered to get the correct game name in their own cracktro for this release. Revenge II my arse. Usually I write this kind of stuff off, but since you have taken it upon yourself to badger me and ROYALLY PISS ME OFF for no reason other than some shitty assed filename semantic bullshit, Triad releases / games / demos / etc is all on you now. Good luck.

May all Triad releases rot on my floppies.

No. I can't be arsed for Triad shit anymore. If you want to fix or delete what I have already uploaded, that's your choice. Put /3AD after the filenames for all I care. But as for any more Triad stuff, that's no longer my responsibility. Find it yourself.
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Submitted by Tao on 7 April 2007
@Ninjasbane: Then could you please just upload the files that don't have proper names as .prg's instead of .t64's/.d64's, since that'll properly convey the information that the name is not the correct one?
User Comment
Submitted by Jon on 7 April 2007
That's fine, Tao. But let me give you some 1980s American scene history.

The reason you won't see /3ad or whatever after a Triad release uploaded by an American--

We didn't do a lot of post trading here. We downloaded stuff off of BBSes. X-Modem was a popular protocol, and the downloader got to decide what to name their download and upload.

So instead of "GAMENAME /3AD.PRG", a user would simply type "GAMENAME.PRG" when uploading or downloading a game. Sometimes an import group would strip the original group tag (considering that a lot of Euro groups would strip ENTIRE CRACKTROS from US releases or steal the crack outright this was a small crime) from the file name. Group tags on filenames were meaningless after the first download and the game got spread. If you look at some of my other releases you'd see the same thing. For example, look up "ooh baby" and you'll find "Porno Adventure". Sometimes group tags were put on crummy releases in order to earn credit on elite boards... like "GUNSTAR/UCF", a game UCF never touched.

When Punter became more popular, that changed a little. Yet some people preferred X-Modem for whatever reason, uploaded games with improper names and when downloaded by Punter the improper names remained intact.

So if you want to go through the things I have already uploaded for Triad and put /3AD on the filename 20 years after the fact, feel free.

Dumping things from disk to a PC is WORK. Going through the scrolltexts and trying to get everything right is WORK. I just don't need people bitching at me about filenames that were lost in the American BBS scene over twenty years ago. Sorry, I have neither the time nor patience for it.

User Comment
Submitted by Tao on 7 April 2007
@Ninjasbane: To the best of my knowledge (bestowed upon me by the captain), all Triad cracks have /triad (or possibly /3ad) appended to the file-names (and most demos have 3ad/ or triad/ prepended). This file didn't, hence the comment about the name.

I didn't mean to discredit your work in general, it's just that a lot of people upload Triad-releases with incorrect names, incorrect credits, etc (to be fair, that probably happens for other groups' releases too, but for natural reasons I'm mostly concerned about the Triad-releases...)

If you think that you have some Triad-demo or crack that is rare, then by all means put it here, but if unsure about the file-names, ask first, OK? Everytime we see a release with a name we don't recognise or doesn't match our listings, we have to check Jerry's archives to see if it's something that's missing from his collection, thus my edgy reaction (sorry about that).

Considering that his collection of Triad-wares numbered over 1300 last time I got a printout of his list (and that is 11 years old and was incomplete even at that time; I should get an updated list), it's a tedious job to verify things. This is also the reason so many of our releases (mainly the cracks) are still missing here.

Sorry again if I came off a bit too harsh.
User Comment
Submitted by Jon on 6 April 2007
I added it as what I knew to be correct. I reviewed the file and entered the proper name and release date. Triad got the game name wrong in their cracktro, but I added the incorrect name in the AKA slot.

If I get anything wrong or erroneously enter a dupe, usually someone POLITELY points it out and corrects it themselves or I correct it, as I do when someone makes an error in their entry. It happens. And when you sort through thousands of files, take written notes on names / dates / handles ETC through a slow assed scroller and then trot off to the CSDb to see if it is here or not, mistakes happen. It happens more often than I like but that's life.

But since you're such a rude little hotshot, I'll keep the rest of my damn '80s Triad demos and games off the CSDb and you can find it your own damn self, mr. 'leet.

Thanks for saving me some time.
User Comment
Submitted by Stainless Steel on 6 April 2007
Fire up the tar!
User Comment
Submitted by Tao on 6 April 2007
If you add Triad wares, at least do it properly with the right file names, proper credits and release -data (both available in the file).
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