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Burglar
Registered: Dec 2004
Posts: 1051 |
X2016 Competitions: Your Input Wanted!
The 28th of october is still far away but getting closer and closer. The organizers have been getting busy and are now well underway to get everything sorted out for another smashing X!
Since entry delivery and running the compos at X14 went quite smooth and voting is now done in realtime, we believe we may have room for 1 or 2 more (small/fun) c64 competitions. Like a PETSCII compo or a 4k compo, or maybe you guys have an idea?
Or perhaps you think the straightforward demo/music/gfx compos are enough.
Let us know :) |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
Quote: Prerecording demos sucks. I know it's practical but then why not just make videos?
Best C64 demo video compo?
I have to agree with Groepaz here. It's not about making video.
Go to Revision (I only was on BP once) and check how well organized the compos are. I was blown away how much it influences the overall experience of the party |
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soci
Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 474 |
Prerecording demos sucks. I know it's practical but then why not just make videos? Best C64 demo video compo?
That gave me ideas! Please forgive the trolling, but I must push this a bit further ;)
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Why not just record straight from an emulator? Apparently some people are on the opinion that blurred images suck, so therefore I assume even s-video is not crisp enough. Or the other way round, some effects work better with more blurring or without pal mixing. And there are no proper scanlines on beamers either and it's difficult to find ones without de-interlacing.
Also some graphicians have their favourite palettes for drawing in cross platform tools. Therefore showing the result on a real machine would not represent the art in it's finest form. So we should allow png versions to compete on compos. Using proper colour profiles could solve the skewed saturation/contrast problems as well. And no more flickering of interlaced pictures.
Some musics just don't sound the same as at home or like in the cross platform tool it was originally composed in. Why not just submit lossless encoded versions to make sure it's the right SID revision/emulation? I'm sure some post processing wouldn't hurt either to compensate for the room acoustics.
And it's 2016 already so why bother to travel at all when the whole could be done over the Internet for less cheaper and without wasting time on travelling? Like a huge video conference or so, straight from your sofa, or from where ever you are with your mobile.
Some non-intrusive advertising played between entries and SMS voting (only 2 EUR+standard network fees) could pay the bill for the prices easily.
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Wohoo, the possibilities are endless. I better stop here, sorry everyone ;)
And yes, recording makes sense and is not cheating. It make things predictable and safe for both organizers and participants.
It ensures that your work will not crash at the compo because your new crappy loader fails at the wrong moment when it finally meets the real world. Contrary earlier testing by the organizers, cleaned heads, adjusted speed and the finest disks written on the same drive. Probably the reason why a 1541U is used here.
But no risk no fun ;) |
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Jammer
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1293 |
@cArrion - no offence taken, naturally - just a regular sword fight and pint of beer afterwards :D
@Digger - you've just brought 'far fetched' expression to the entirely new level :D
To forestall all conspiracy theories - THE ORGS DO ALL RECORDING from delivered entries at party place way before compos and compo machines are still there for any kind of emergency (and for recording process, obvously :P). Things clear now? ;) |
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Perplex
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 254 |
Quoting Groepazwildcompo without compo recording.... yeah. schedule another day for that then :o)
+1 for one more day. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11148 |
yes! finally a good idea in this thread :) |
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Digger
Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 422 |
@soci you've pretty much described my point =)
Prerecording kills the Ghost in the Machine ;-)
The fear of your live running demo failing when beamed is a part of the thrill, isn't it? Why ruin it?
What if there was a surprise hidden part that required user interaction during the live show? How lame if that was also pre-recorded? |
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Smasher
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 512 |
if democompo will use recorded videos instead of the real thing I cancel my trip to NL. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 629 |
pre-recording your demos is *the* stupidest idea I've ever heard for a c64 demo party. May as well stay at home and have a conference too. |
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Brush
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 21 |
Avoidng labeling things as stupid etc. : our scene is the anti-thesis of "professional". The whole point of it is to ride the old hardware to the max. Which means that as in all extreme sports - there will be failures, casualties and the engine will not work in the worst moment. That's the beauty of the compo. My own demo in '92 hanged because the organizers played it on c128 and i've used old time cruncher in one place that forgot to clear the 2mhz flag. And THAT was the part of the party feeling. That was the adrenaline. If we go down the recording path. It'll be smooth. It'll be professional. It will be sterile.
If i want sterile - i don't fire up c64. Your mileage may vary. |
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Conjuror
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 168 |
Quote:Groepaz: wildcompo without compo recording.... yeah. schedule another day for that then :o)
How did this even get interpreted as a serious suggestion? Should be taken as seriously as changing the compos in anyway what so ever. |
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