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2015-04-11 00:24
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203
CSDb - Quantify Me Too - Hype stopped?

Heya folks.

I thought I'd get the data of CSDb again for another analysis like I did for the CSDb - Quantify Me ( CSDb - Quantify Me ) release back in 2010. It's been now more than 4 years on, would be interesting to compare the pivotal line chart from that analysis with the current state of affairs:



In the chart you see the data of today, compared to the 31st of July 2010. You can also see a lot of more additions have been made to the database, most releases attributed to the period between 1984 and, say, 1997.

At that time in 2010, 88380 releases were in my analysis, of which 76425 did have a release year listed. Today, I counted 130743 releases, with 113612 having a release year. So that's 37186 new CSDb additions with a release year since back then. Of course, most of this is due to stuff that was apparently made back in the 80s and 90s.

I would like to draw your attention to the period after 2010 however, that showed a steady increase of yearly number of releases, from 1046 in 2010 to 2037 in 2013. The latter number is touching the number in 1984, mind you. In this light, I would point out the drunken rambling in a word document I put at the end of the third of these CSDb - Quantify Me pages ( http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=235, http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=254, http://www.xentax.com/?page_id=265 ). In effect, this one: http://c64.xentax.com/downloads/csdb_quantifyme_part2_mindspook..
There I suggested (so in 2010) that we might be reliving a hyped surge in C64 activity, not unlike that seen in the Golden Age of C64 (the 80s).

Further drunken analysis might now confirm that, since the rise in the years after that is pretty clear. ;-) Where's that bottle of wodka? Anyway, what is somewhat troubling though, is that 2014 seems to be a year of decline. Has the hype stopped, ladies and gentlemen? Have we all now gone through our mid-life crises and/or died and is there no future? ;-)
 
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2015-04-16 21:37
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203
About those 2013 releases, zooming in on C64 Graphics, we can see part of the big increase was probably caused by the many graphics compos, such as Font Creation Competion 2013, C64pixels.com Double Screen Compo 2013, Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition and the 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013.

Here's a table with the top 15 "ReleasedBy" IDs as listed at CSDb (ranked for 2013, with the other years also in the table). As you can see, JSL was going strong both in 2013 and 2014 ;-)
But you can also see that a lot of those in the top 15 of 2013 did hardly release anything before or after that year, hence the correlation with the compos in 2013.

2015-04-16 23:02
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203
Back to general, looking at the foundation years of the groups listed here, this chart comes up. You will see the number of unique new groups formed per year of foundation. The Golden Age C64 Year 1988 again sticks out! From about 2000 onwards the number of new groups each year seems to average out at about 14.5.



1988. If anything, a competition honoring 1988 would be fitting. Why don't we call 2016 the year of 1988? 1988 needs a tribute, it is in all probability the year where c64 scene activity reached it's supremacy.
2015-04-17 11:06
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 809
No.
2015-04-19 01:15
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203
1988 is the year. Anyway, will post some more details of the past years soon.
2015-04-20 22:01
Mr Ammo

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 60
Looking at the table of post 21, I'd say JSL is quite an outlier. Have you considered leaving out this outlier in your data set?
2015-08-14 13:22
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203


Cumulative increase in releases per month for 2010 through 2015 (august 14, 2015). This year seems to be on par so far with 2012 and 2014.
2017-03-27 21:34
Tao

Registered: Aug 2002
Posts: 102
Quoting Mr. Mouse
About those 2013 releases, zooming in on C64 Graphics, we can see part of the big increase was probably caused by the many graphics compos, such as Font Creation Competion 2013, C64pixels.com Double Screen Compo 2013, Plain PETSCII Graphics Competition and the 3-Color-Logo Competition 2013.

Here's a table with the top 15 "ReleasedBy" IDs as listed at CSDb (ranked for 2013, with the other years also in the table). As you can see, JSL was going strong both in 2013 and 2014 ;-)
But you can also see that a lot of those in the top 15 of 2013 did hardly release anything before or after that year, hence the correlation with the compos in 2013.



I didn't double-check the others, but most of the counts for TRIAD seem wrong: I checked out release page, and got the following counts for Graphics for those years:

2010 - 1
2011 - 3
2012 - 1
2013 - 12
2014 - 4

Some of our releases are credited to both artist & group; could this be the cause of the discrepancy?
2017-03-27 22:11
Mr. Mouse

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 203
It could also be that some time later than the date this table was created new additions to CSDb were done.
2017-03-28 14:25
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8043
JSL wins!

what else do you need to know
2017-03-28 19:49
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 379
Alternative 1337 facts: Any stats mentioning MYD is fake news! ;)
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