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2016-04-04 21:14
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1825
Change of rules - What kind of Events belong into the Database

<Post edited by Count Zero on 6/4-2016 19:12>

Quite a while ago the mod team started a general discusion on updating the CSDb rules regarding several aspects. To start off "slowly" we started by finding an agreement on changes towards "Meetings" (Parties!). The result can be found at https://csdb.dk/help.php?section=rules under Section V Paragraph 10.

Under 1. we added "C64" to point out that there is a strong desire towards this special 8bit machine. Point 2. was reworded slightly to be more precise.

Both points combined lead to surely debatable combinations and entries but basically it _IMHO_ boils down to:

- defining "historical" regarding C64 scene content and events
- the value of releases

For the "historical" part we have choosen to start off at 1st of January 2000 (to show how liberal we actually are) ending on the 1st of January 2016. You guess right. We found tons of entries without releases and pages requiring a definite update. Overall a quick glance was taken at about 500 of the nearly 2500 "meetings" revealing a horrible picture:

- about 15-20% of the entries simply don't deserve the entry here unless a release gets added (meeting in a pub to spend money on beer is _NOT_ making scene history!)
- MANY of the added links don't work anymore and it is beyond our understanding why http://sil.ly.ip.addy/party.html suddenly doesn't work anymore...
- entries with no linked releases AND only 2-3 sceners attending. This excessive info won't turn the meeting entry into an entry of historic relevance at all - not now and not in the far future really. Entries with no linked releases and MANY sceners attending? Where is at least some party report? YOU SCENERS maintain the database and your entries! It is not up to anyone else to report on how the meeting turned out!


So, the following 61 events were deleted. You can currently not access them. We will restore them on request: meaning "you found the missing release" to be added to that particular entry is one of few reasons to do so. Yes, this MEANS you can finally dig out the disk you saved the scrolltext on at $party, link it to the intro screen and release something!

The list below also means pure drama!


Type: Internal Meeting
Held between: 1 January 2000 and 1 January 2016

Wrath Designs Minibreak 2004
Villa Bellocchio
TRIAD Epiphany 2012
Tcp01
Cosa Nostra Meeting #1 - 2008
X'2006 Afterparty
Focus meeting #5
Focus Meeting #6
fuzikix meeting #1
Klr01
10 Print "Hello World!"
Arise Demomeeting 3.0
Arsenic + Friends Meeting / Hamburg 2014
The Barn 5
TKH
Stonehead Secret EHEC-Meeting
Swiss Pirates Reunion 2002
Swiss Pirates Reunion 2010
TGH 6
Sthd friday night v1109
Silicon Ltd. Meeting #1
Schlimeisch 2003
ROTY Awards 2009
Schlimeisch 2002
Project Amundsen 2008
Project Amundsen 2005
Out of Güll 2010
Makrel & Data 2014
Kraze Meeting 12/2007
Koling Birthday Party 2006
Danish Gold New Years Party 2001/2002
Danish Gold Internal Party Feb 2002
Cascade Meeting 2008
Camelot (K)olding Meeting 2011
Arsenic Elite Mactron Investigation Conference Analyzation
Plushmeeting Zeitlarn 2015

...to be continued (too many links)...
 
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2016-04-05 18:47
Cresh

Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354
Just release anything.

Crap scroller, PETSCII screen, etc.

And then your meeting belongs to c64 scene legacy according to CSDb nazi mods.
2016-04-05 20:36
hedning

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4603
Quote: Just release anything.

Crap scroller, PETSCII screen, etc.

And then your meeting belongs to c64 scene legacy according to CSDb nazi mods.


What's your problem, Cresh? Nazi mods? And speaking of releasing stuff, well, that comes from the right person.
2016-04-05 20:55
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1628
Calm down boys! It's only d.a.t.a.! Mods are always nazis and users are always whiners. That's a natural law. Just look at what happened with Gpz when he stopped being a mod :D
2016-04-05 21:57
Isildur

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 274
Yay, the most important issue of CSDB will be fixed, at least!
Thanks God!

Where's editing posts and voting issues on that most important things to fix list?
2016-04-05 22:15
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896
<Post edited by Moloch on 6/4-2016 00:28>

Quoting Isildur
Yay, the most important issue of CSDB will be fixed, at least!
Thanks God!

Where's editing posts and voting issues on that most important things to fix list?

Now that you've whined about it those two will go back to #19 and #20 on the list. Happy? ;)

Nobody on the staff reads this comment and says "Oh boy! Someone has whined and bitched for the 1000th time, we better get working on that immediately!".

BTW - "voting issues" isn't a topic of discussion for the staff
2016-04-05 22:27
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
I was not aware of such a todo list. Where is it, and more importantly, where can I bitch about it?
2016-04-05 22:29
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896
Quoting Compyx
I was not aware of such a todo list. Where is it, and more importantly, where can I bitch about it?

Your bitching can go right here -> /dev/null
2016-04-05 22:48
Compyx

Registered: Jan 2005
Posts: 631
Haha, works like a charm on my box. But seriously though, is there a wishlist for CSDb?

Edit: didn't mean to hijack this thread
2016-04-05 23:20
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2896
Quoting Compyx
Haha, works like a charm on my box. But seriously though, is there a wishlist for CSDb?

I think a few threads on the forums are sort of a wishlist. Not sure if anyone in the staff ever posted a real wishlist before, I guess maybe groepaz would have been the one to post it in the past.
2016-04-06 01:23
uka
Account closed

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 2
Maybe these small events are less important.. no releases, small number of participants, whatever.. but CSDb is good places to keep info about it (even if it's only party name, date and list of visitors). Is it part of scene history or not? (;

...and the CSDb goal say:

Quote:
To gather as much information as possible about the C64 scene. The sceners, the groups, the releases and events, AND AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THESE AS POSSIBLE.
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