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2004-07-31 10:16
Yaemon
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1541 drive and Win XP

Ok I'm going nuts here. I'm trying to acces my 1541 drive with star commander under win xp. but I can't. I have unzipped the special drivers supposedly for win xp/2000/nt and there's one driver called user port. So I've followed the manual, copied the .sys file into the system32\drivers folder. I start the executable program and plunch in the driver details they want (port range), I start the driver and it says ok. No problems here. I go to a command prompt and type in the debug \\.\giveio command and I just leave it like that. I start up the Star Commander, but it just freezes. Do I have to wait a little longer or what can I do? I thank you in advance for helping me out!
 
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2004-08-26 22:49
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Slightly o/t, but does anybody know if there's something special I need to do to get sc working with a laptop? The cable etc. works fine when I connect it to my old IBM, but I want to replace that with a pentium 133 laptop, since it takes less space.

Unfortunately I can't seem to get it to work, it just tells me that drive 8 is not present .. I tried playing around in the bios but it doesn't seem to matter ..


Well, what cable do you use X1541 or XE1541? I would say XE1541 for a 133 should be ok.

and that what Steppe already said:

"X cables require SPP mode, I think. XE cables usually work with all modes (ECP, EPP and SPP/normal)."

So, I would say a XE1541 should be fine, I set mine on ECP & EPP in the BIOS. It would help to know which settings you can do in your BIOS and which cable you actually use.

It's very likely that you need a XE1541 for such a fast Pentium I.

And you can press "Recalibrate" in Transfer options of SC, then everything should work ok.

Good Luck!
2004-08-27 06:37
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Xe1541, it has been working in the past for faster machines (even a pentium 450), and ofcourse I tried everything like recalibrate but nothing helps :(

I can set my port to bidirectional, epp & ecp btw ..

edit: I just tested the printer port, by attaching a zipdrive to it: this works fine, so that's not it either (which is a good thing, otherwise the whole laptop would be useless since it doesn't even have a cd-rom)
2004-08-27 08:04
Blockbuster

Registered: Oct 2003
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I don't have the experience that you all have concerning this problem.. I also bought a XE1541 and couldn't get SC working on XP. But then I tried the hints given at this page: http://www.vendetta.org/stories/commodore-xe1541.shtml and that way I was getting SC to work.. Not even perfectly, as it crashes sometimes, but atleast it's running!

Just wanted to let you know, even if you might know this manual already.

Greetings from Blockbuster.
2004-08-27 09:08
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Xe1541, it has been working in the past for faster machines (even a pentium 450), and ofcourse I tried everything like recalibrate but nothing helps :(

I can set my port to bidirectional, epp & ecp btw ..

edit: I just tested the printer port, by attaching a zipdrive to it: this works fine, so that's not it either (which is a good thing, otherwise the whole laptop would be useless since it doesn't even have a cd-rom)


Well, then you need a XA1541:
(from manual)

"The XE1541 extended cable is a substitution for the X1541 cable. Its advantage is that works in all modes of all parallel ports. Its drawbacks are that you need special diodes to build it and that only a few programs support it. Please, note that this cable has problems with motherboards that use the ALI 5 chipset and certain laptops. On these machines, use the XA1541 active cable instead."

But I have never had a XA1541, since I never owned a laptop/notebook
2004-08-27 09:28
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Good point, haven't thought of that.
2004-08-27 09:56
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Hmm .. bad news .. I'm not too good with building cables myself, but maybe I can order one from the HCC commodore gg.

But first I'll try to get the damn thing working under windows 2000, that would solve the problem as well. Even better: I can throw the laptop away :)
2004-08-27 10:11
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
And since I'm thinking about this anyway: what does one need to do in order to get the really fast transfers going? I remember something about changes to the diskdrive as well? I've got a few extra 1541's so I could spare one just for this .. would help me a lot in finally getting my collection transferred ;Z
2004-08-27 10:17
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
check the transfer option menu and you will find stuff like Dolphin DOS (floppyspeeders). Yes, then they are part of the drive, an extra chip to build-in.

As for Windows 2000: Like written above in several posts by several posters, it's very wacky such support, since the HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) of Windows NT/2000/XP is between the hardware and the prg you use.
2004-08-27 10:36
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: check the transfer option menu and you will find stuff like Dolphin DOS (floppyspeeders). Yes, then they are part of the drive, an extra chip to build-in.

As for Windows 2000: Like written above in several posts by several posters, it's very wacky such support, since the HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) of Windows NT/2000/XP is between the hardware and the prg you use.


Damn that HAL, I didn't like him when he fucked those astronauts in 2001: a space odyssey, and I don't like him now!

Serious though: I'll just give it a try, if it doesn't work no harm. At least I've got one working configuration already.
2004-08-27 11:41
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
TDJ, you need to install a parallel speeder such as Speed DOS or Dolphin DOS in your floppy drive, then you need an additional XEP, XP or XAP adaptor (depending on what cable you have). This speeds up transfers by about 2-3 times. Definitely worth getting!
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