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2015-10-11 07:18
Monte Carlos

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Event id #2417 : First CSDb "Unintended OpCode coding challenge"

So here it is. The First CSDb "Unintended OpCode coding challenge" starts over.

First CSDb "Unintended OpCode Coding Challenge"

Please give some feedback about your interest in this compo.
For those who have been part of the discussion
http://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=12&topicid=112819#112927
please let me know if you are in better agreement with the reworked rules than before.
However, there will not be a rule change anymore.
2015-10-12 14:32
T.M.R
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Looks far better to me, just need to find some coding time now... =-)
2015-10-12 15:40
Rastah Bar

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What T.M.R. said + some inspiration.

I my releases I had looked for places where I could use UOCs, but only SAX (opcode $CB) helped. Still some look really potentially useful, such as DCM(DCP), RRA (for multiplication?), ASO(SLO) (for line drawing?), etc.
2015-10-12 18:22
Kabuto
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A good example of Unofficial Opcodes are ">= 5 sprites over FLI" effects, such as Demus Interruptus by Crest or Darwin by The Dreams
2015-10-12 19:23
Bitbreaker

Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 500
Quote: What T.M.R. said + some inspiration.

I my releases I had looked for places where I could use UOCs, but only SAX (opcode $CB) helped. Still some look really potentially useful, such as DCM(DCP), RRA (for multiplication?), ASO(SLO) (for line drawing?), etc.


There's great use for many of them, so far just didn't use RRA and RLA as well as LAS and TAS. Even used them in all their adressing modes, some are really handy as they extend the indirect y index modes (LAX, SHA). Most used are LAX, SAX, SBX, DCP, ISC, ASR, ARR.
2015-10-13 08:24
T.M.R
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Quoting Color Bar
I my releases I had looked for places where I could use UOCs, but only SAX (opcode $CB) helped. Still some look really potentially useful, such as DCM(DCP), RRA (for multiplication?), ASO(SLO) (for line drawing?), etc.


i'm using SAX and DCP right now, with some LAX use where i can just about justify it as an advantage as long as the loop isn't unrolled! =-)

(Please don't expect anything amazing... this is me we're talking about!)
2015-10-13 10:33
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
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Quoting T.M.R
... where i can just about justify it as an advantage as long as the loop isn't unrolled! =-)


It saves memory, isn't that enough justification?
2015-10-13 16:45
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Quote: Quoting Color Bar
I my releases I had looked for places where I could use UOCs, but only SAX (opcode $CB) helped. Still some look really potentially useful, such as DCM(DCP), RRA (for multiplication?), ASO(SLO) (for line drawing?), etc.


i'm using SAX and DCP right now, with some LAX use where i can just about justify it as an advantage as long as the loop isn't unrolled! =-)

(Please don't expect anything amazing... this is me we're talking about!)


Unrolling is for lamers anyway.
2015-10-13 19:14
Monte Carlos

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 351
TMR:
I'm glad this update looks more convincing to you now. After this rules discussion before i feared i messed it up before it even started.
Now i have a better feeling...
2015-10-14 07:35
T.M.R
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Quoting Monte Carlos
TMR:
I'm glad this update looks more convincing to you now. After this rules discussion before i feared i messed it up before it even started.
Now i have a better feeling...


i'm just difficult, ask my Beloved... =-)
2015-10-14 09:05
Rastah Bar

Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336
Quote: There's great use for many of them, so far just didn't use RRA and RLA as well as LAS and TAS. Even used them in all their adressing modes, some are really handy as they extend the indirect y index modes (LAX, SHA). Most used are LAX, SAX, SBX, DCP, ISC, ASR, ARR.

It looks like opcodes ASO ($0f), RLA ($2f), LSE ($4f), and RRA ($6f) may save you 2 cycles.

Suppose I want to do

ASL $xxxx
LDA $xxxx

That takes 10 cycles, but

LDA #$00
ASO $xxxx

takes only 8. Isn't that so?

(I am referring to http://codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:extra_instructions_of_th..)
 
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