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2015-11-24 12:43
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Suggestions for releasing needed

Hi,

I have finished my very first SID-Tune. I just need to tweak a few minor issues, then it is ready for releasing.

In your opinion, what would be the best way to release it, apart from putting it here on CSDB of course?

c0z
2015-11-24 13:13
GH

Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 77
First send it to your best friends and ask for there honest
opinion about it ;)

Also those minor tweaks you mention can often make or break the tune...
No hurries here, make it shine :D
2015-11-24 13:32
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Yep, some folks already listened to it and approved it ;-)

The tweaks I mentioned address an issue I got with my SID 6581. When the tune starts it plays one filtered bass-sound and silence on the other two channels, and when the second voice starts the bass-sound "pops", it gets louder, even though that second voice does not use filters at all... it's annoying...

c0z
2015-11-24 13:36
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11129
tweaking a tune for 6581 can be tricky.... check it on a few different C64s, those chips can vary in sound a LOT
2015-11-24 13:43
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5022
join all c64 related FB groups you can find, and spam them with it.
2015-11-24 13:43
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Yes, I get around that by detecting the SID in my playroutine and setting alternative instrument values.

Maybe it's just my SID that's kinda broken. In general, the tune sounds well on both 6581 and 8580. (With appropriate instrument settings)

c0z
2015-11-24 13:45
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5022
most ppl will listen to it in vice / new sid emulation anyway, or in a sidplayer, so I wouldnt worry much about real sid differences. ppl didnt back in the heydays anyway, so... record it into a YT clip and spread that if you are really concerned :P :)
2015-11-24 13:53
GH

Registered: Sep 2014
Posts: 77
What player/editor do you use if I may ask?
Waht channel do you use the filter on?
And what is the FiltTab StartFQ and Filter Mode?
2015-11-24 14:14
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
you can move to 8580 sidmodel much better filters and kind of a standard for recent musicians . i don't think you should get tweaks especially for it apart from listening it from your editor. as far as i know what Oswald wrote is true , a lot ppl listen emulators like Winvice or from Sidplayer.
still a lot of the ppl don't have the real hw , and even if you get the real hw not absolutely you will test it neither
2015-11-24 14:25
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
A few really care, but those who do, support both SIDs. Even back in the day - Mathematica for example checks SID version before the start. Newcomer does, and I recently even saw it on Pirates from Nostalgia, where I would have expected ingame tunes sound all the same on any SID. :) Sorry it's a litte off-topic...
2015-11-25 10:22
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
I do care about how my songs sound on other ppl's hardware. I can compare on my C64s, and as soon as the filters are involved, a song sounds totally different. Maybe you are right and most ppl listen to SID-Music on PC/Mac/whatever, but there's plenty of old hardware in the field, way too much to ignore it from a composer's view.

I want to release my song primarily for the ppl who run it on their C64s, and that's why I put a hell of an effort into my player. (it diffs the songdata depending on the SID, you can switch during play etc.)

c0z
2015-11-25 10:28
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11129
for old sid you'd pretty much have to provide a user-tweakable filter setting if you want to achieve the same sound on all machines - a couple of games actually did that back in the days (look at "beach head II" for example)
2015-11-25 21:08
c0zmo

Registered: Aug 2015
Posts: 10
Thank you all for your feedback. I have just released my song here on CSDb, have fun!

Transforming

c0z
2015-11-26 09:01
ThunderBlade

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 75
Wow, with SID detection. Love it!
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