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Crowd Pleaser   [2013]

Crowd Pleaser Released by :
Hitmen [web]

Release Date :
31 March 2013

Type :
C64 Demo

Released At :
Revision 2013

Achievements :
Mixed Demo Competition at Revision 2013 :  #3

User rating:*********_  8.6/10 (44 votes)   See votestatistics
*********_  8.6/10 (20 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Groepaz of Dienstagstreff, Hitmen, VICE Team
Music .... Moog of Agony Design
  Xiny6581 of Dees Productions, Digital Sounds System, Gheymaid Inc., Hitmen, Skalaria
Graphics .... Cupid of Extacy, Hitmen, Padua
  Death of Arsenic, Hitmen
  Groepaz of Dienstagstreff, Hitmen, VICE Team
Design .... Groepaz of Dienstagstreff, Hitmen, VICE Team
Charset .... Groepaz of Dienstagstreff, Hitmen, VICE Team
Linking .... Groepaz of Dienstagstreff, Hitmen, VICE Team


SIDs used in this release :
Boom(/MUSICIANS/M/Moog/Boom.sid)
Differential Polarcube(/MUSICIANS/X/Xiny6581/Differential_Polarcube.sid)
Substral Hyperwaves III (C.P.Ed)(/MUSICIANS/X/Xiny6581/Substral_Hyperwaves_III_Crowd_Pleaser_Edition.sid)

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/115551/crowdpleaser-hitmen-RC2.zip (downloads: 1273)

Look for downloads on external sites:
 Pokefinder.org


User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 14 June 2014
Quote:
Challenge accepted. :) (And not just by me I think...)

so, mr.bigmouth... is it ready yet? =P
User Comment
Submitted by Jammer on 10 December 2013
Now - Where's My Water? for C64 ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 6 November 2013
yes, whatever "cling animations" is, i am doing it \o/
User Comment
Submitted by Mr Wegi on 21 October 2013
"dude, you STILL call it "deterministic"? that alone disqualifies it for me, wtf?"
paraphrase
dude, you STILL cling animations? that alone disqualifies it for me, wtf?

now pleasse call me idiot
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 15 September 2013
well, one of the key things in this demo was to abruptly change between parts. because making all those transitions sucks arse. as does making all the artsyfartsy bullshit =) also repeating the same style in every demo is boring as fuck - expect something completely different again next time :)
User Comment
Submitted by Sith on 15 September 2013
The physics may be partly fake but they still look so real, that's what matters. ;) It is a demo after all and demos are for watching.
I am still of the opinion that this one is a rough diamond that needs a bit of fine-cutting, especially concerning the transferring from one part to the next. That goes way too abrupt and bluntly. Groepaz told us on Lemon that he won't touch it again which I regret. Still great stuff though.
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 1 August 2013
the tune from moog is used in good tradition without permission, so i have no idea (but i doubt it). as for cupid... we will see. maybe :)
User Comment
Submitted by Jak T Rip on 5 July 2013
First time I actually identify with the crowd as I am pleased :)
Really neat demo, lovely ideas, physics and fluids - cool! Is this old stuff or are Cupid and Moog back on the active side??
Seriously well done, Groepaz!
User Comment
Submitted by Flex on 8 April 2013
Hitmen for the world! Artphosis was/is just one hell of a demo! Can't believe what we saw at the X2012 democompo can ever be beat (well that's just the last demo I remember from the compo... no chance for voting as I was almost sleeping)..
User Comment
Submitted by TheRyk on 8 April 2013
When watching for the first time, I was really impressed and a little puzzled, the digivoice spoke out exactly my thoughts which made me lol a lot. Besides, I really dig the soundtrack in the rhythm of everything, too. Great the X release was not just a singular call from the grave but Hitmen really seems to be awoken for good and active again on C64.
User Comment
Submitted by fieserWolF on 5 April 2013
Really a cool release. I like it a lot and hope to see more Hitmen releases in the near future!!1
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 3 April 2013
"Conclusion: this demo is Reanim8ted 2013."
not more than any other demo released recently. do you seriously think everything in eg cl13 is realtime? and all the "physics" popping up recently is completely non fake?
User Comment
Submitted by Oswald on 3 April 2013
Conclusion: this demo is Reanim8ted 2013.
User Comment
Submitted by Martin Piper on 3 April 2013
For the falling blocks part I was watching lots of linear reads through memory progressing each frame that slowed down when blocks were not moving. So obviously it's an animation with some compression. ICU64 is an excellent tool.



Re: Groepaz - "just try it - 50hz with 8 blocks that is :)"

Challenge accepted. :) (And not just by me I think...)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 3 April 2013
"Regarding non-realtime physics, please also check Hollowman's World War III"
yep, balls/particles is very doable, boxes not so much :)
User Comment
Submitted by psych858o on 2 April 2013
Very cool stuff. Like it much!
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 2 April 2013
@PAL: Thanx! I'm not too sharp today :)
User Comment
Submitted by Mr. SID on 2 April 2013
@groepaz: I knew it, but it looked suspiciously like a realtime attempt. Anyway, cool stuff...
User Comment
Submitted by PAL on 2 April 2013
WWIII
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 2 April 2013
@JackAsser: What release is that? Can't find it.
User Comment
Submitted by JackAsser on 2 April 2013
Lovley little release! Regarding non-realtime physics, please also check Hollowman's World War III
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 2 April 2013
oswald: the "physics" obviously (really, shame on everyone) isnt realtime.
"However Verlet integration is fast and easily optimised for integer or fixed point maths."
just try it - 50hz with 8 blocks that is :)
User Comment
Submitted by VIC on 2 April 2013
Interesting use of anal probe + excellent physics! What's not to like? :)
User Comment
Submitted by Krill on 2 April 2013
The particle stuff was great, waiting for more effects based on it.
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 1 April 2013
Interesting effects!
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 1 April 2013
Martin Piper: User interaction is one way to show that it is not pre-calculated. Another way is to allow the effect to run indefinitely without looping (as long as the shift-lock key is pressed, or until a certain key is pressed, for instance.)
User Comment
Submitted by Martin Piper on 1 April 2013
Of course the way to show the physics and liquid is real time and not pre-calced is to have some user input going on. Something like moving the blocks around with the joystick and fire changing which one can be moved. Or the joystick moving the water pipe around with variable water flow rate.

However Verlet integration is fast and easily optimised for integer or fixed point maths.
User Comment
Submitted by Bitbreaker on 1 April 2013
oh noes, anonymous upvoting on this one!11!
User Comment
Submitted by spider-j on 1 April 2013
I think this probably more a coder pleaser than crowd pleaser, but as a coder, I'm very pleased =) Very nice that Groepaz brings some effects to C64 which hadn't been done yet!
User Comment
Submitted by Urban Space Cowboy on 1 April 2013
Angry Birds is fine but I'd rather see Boxcar 2D. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 1 April 2013
Pretty cool! Yes physics part is best!
User Comment
Submitted by Dr.j on 1 April 2013
The physics effect is a killing one. awesome demo from Hitmen
User Comment
Submitted by ready. on 31 March 2013
real nice physics simulation! Enjoy that a lot. Would be nice to use as base for an porting of Angry Birds.
User Comment
Submitted by Burglar on 31 March 2013
in the note: poke $1ad4,$ad poke $1ad7,$ad to get rid of that annoying screenflash ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 31 March 2013
oswald: check note for details :)

i'll also prepare some more detailed docs on the marching squares stuff used in the last part, that type of rendering has potential for more, imho :)
User Comment
Submitted by Oswald on 31 March 2013
now this pleases me more than artphosis, real time of many parts is questionable, still nice tho. been thinking myself on realizing 2d marching squares, nice job there.
User Comment
Submitted by Skate on 31 March 2013
Some very original parts there. You probably didn't have much time after X'2012 but i appreciate permanence as well as production scale. physics fx are really impressive like others said.

Btw, stopimg fpp is exactly my cup of tea. ;)
User Comment
Submitted by N3XU5 on 31 March 2013
@ Bob & Pantaloon
that was my fault... i haven't found the time to finish all those gfx just in time.
User Comment
Submitted by SplAtterpunk on 31 March 2013
Damn! Those physics effects..! :)
Real killer!
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 31 March 2013
Lots of incredible physics code here. The constant D020 blinking didn't do it for me, and the overall design could have been more polished, but all in all another solid demo from Hitmen!
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 31 March 2013
Yeah physics part were awesome. Subtle, but very cool. It is really stupid to give this only 9/10 but I had to judge demo as a whole. For the physics part straight 11/10! Outreached my expectations from c64 demo.
User Comment
Submitted by BYB on 31 March 2013
I saw this yesterday in live stream. Wow !!! I imagined this big screen then. :)
Sound is awesome also.
User Comment
Submitted by Bob on 31 March 2013
liked the physics in the demo, missed out on amazing art & design, that has stunned us since X-2012.
User Comment
Submitted by N3XU5 on 31 March 2013
The physics part is awesome .. too bad, there wasn't enough time left to put some more parts in!
User Comment
Submitted by Pantaloon on 31 March 2013
im disappointed by all c-64 demos at revision and this is no exception. It had it momentrs but they were few, after the X demo i hoped for alot more.
User Comment
Submitted by encore on 31 March 2013
What Joe said. :)
User Comment
Submitted by Burglar on 31 March 2013
awesome physics are awesome! angry birds on c64 next? ;)

excellent demo, also the fluid effects rule!
User Comment
Submitted by CONS on 31 March 2013
i LOVED the physics part. It is just wonderful. I could have watched that way longer. Awesome work there.
User Comment
Submitted by Axis/Oxyron on 31 March 2013
OMG rigid body physics and fluids on C64. This is crazy!
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 31 March 2013
Massive!
User Comment
Submitted by Joe on 31 March 2013
Some excellent parts in this one!
User Comment
Submitted by Tristan on 31 March 2013
choose the 90's ?
User Comment
Submitted by celticdesign on 31 March 2013
just wow!
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