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RAMBO re:WIRED   [2011]

RAMBO re:WIRED Released by :
Cybortech

Release Date :
25 August 2011

Type :
C64 Graphics  (FLI)

AKA :
Rambo – First Blood part II picture [2011 wired remix]

Released At :
Rambo Revisited - GFX Compo

Achievements :
C64 Graphics Competition at Rambo Revisited - GFX Compo :  #14

User rating:awaiting 8 votes (1 left)   See votestatistics

Credits :
Music .... Brian of Graffity, The Imperium Arts
Graphics .... Cybortech of Graffity


SIDs used in this release :
Galways Music Style(/MUSICIANS/B/Brian/Galways_Music_Style.sid)

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/99286/rambo re_wired.prg (downloads: 590)

Look for downloads on external sites:
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User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 27 October 2012
Thanks dK! : )
User Comment
Submitted by algorithm on 21 August 2012
Would love to see this in all borders (would be easier due to single colors in the outside area)
User Comment
Submitted by DeeKay on 21 August 2012
Actually, this one rocks! Never really noticed it back then, probably ?TOO MANY ENTRIES ERROR. ;-) My personal winner (yes, so I love technique more than creative ideas like "rambo as rabbit" etc, sue me! ;-)
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 28 August 2011
Thanks Jak! : )
User Comment
Submitted by Jak T Rip on 27 August 2011
Cybortech back in business is the news of the month for me! GREAT!
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 27 August 2011
Like it!
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 26 August 2011
this is a better one, also showing the apperture grill technique :) this is more related to other subtle effects though, not so much to the bandwidth imlicated blur.
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 26 August 2011
two crt's type of shadow mask>

User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 26 August 2011
if you do, it would be helpful see to screenshots of this and Play With Colors 2. and additionally from the startup screen. all from both your pc and your c64 setup. and if possible also captured from your c64 using some videocard.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 26 August 2011
Ok. I can make simple photo of PC screen with blurr.. ahem PAL emulated image, and then from the computer screen.
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 26 August 2011
creamd: the difference (what is not correctly emulated) to a real CRT is, that in reality the UV (color) component has a much lower bandwidth than the Y (brightness) component, meaning color is actually pretty blurry (around 3 pixels vertically), and luma is pretty sharp in comparison.
and as mrsid said, if any pal signal blurs less than that for you.... the tv does some fancy processing to it :)
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 26 August 2011
It is old. Round screen. Heavy, tube. (portable though) I don't say it has exactly sharp pixels when you look under magnifier, but the ammount of blur like in pal emulation screenshots is not present at all.
User Comment
Submitted by Mr. SID on 26 August 2011
@CreaMD: how old is that TV? Modern TVs (I'd say most of the ones built within the last 10-15 years) mess with the input signal, they have a blur/sharpen setting too. Typically doesn't really improve the image but it can make pixels look nice and square. Also introduces latency which can make games unplayable.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 25 August 2011
Ok so you say it can be adjusted to less blurry? I will try to play with it then, when playing with it.

Anyway I have small Phillips TV over here connected through SCART and although it isn't PC monitor, it has pretty sharp screen. Much better than I had on original C64 monitor with that weird 4 inch cable.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 25 August 2011
Changed the GFX mode to FLI. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanx to STE'86 for info.

edit: Have read the comments. It's FLI according to Cybortech too.
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 25 August 2011
Analogue crt scan line with shadow mask always blured. Impossible to view perfect contrasted squared pixels.

User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 25 August 2011
"I wonder who is actually using this emulation on PC. I would call him a masochist."
i do, the default values infact represent pretty accurately how my c64+1701 looks like :)
User Comment
Submitted by Mr. SID on 25 August 2011
@CreaMD: Blur can be adjusted (just like saturation, brightness and contrast). How blurry your C64 looked depends a lot on your TV/monitor. I remember that my 1702 was never really sharp, pixel counting was sometimes quite tedious. Medium blur setting using CRT emulation in Vice 2.3.x mimics that pretty nicely for me.
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 25 August 2011
Sabbi!

Me, too. : ) in this compo I see first on the original covers, that background is an explosion's fire cloud. Great recogniton after the '85 orange effect. : )
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 25 August 2011
CreaMD!

For more realistic effect, the pal emulation. In my memories, my Philips crt color monitor is same analogue visual effect when I draw in orig c64.

The format is normal multi fli.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 25 August 2011
Mr.Sid, Groepaz, I understand it, but really it's quite stupid to add blurred pics with no distinct pixels here when you can more-or-less see single pixels on CRT screen. It is much better to add "lees accurate" sharp pics than totally innacurate blurred screennshots where only advantage is correct color mixing.

As far ast that weird emulation effect is concerned. They should either resharpen it again or change the way the color mixing is generated. I wonder who is actually using this emulation on PC. I would call him a masochist.
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 25 August 2011
"it never looks blurred on real CRT monitor"
hu? ofcourse it does, due to the bandwidth limitations of PAL/NTSC. (its however true that VICE doesnt emulate this accurately)
User Comment
Submitted by Mr. SID on 25 August 2011
@CreaMD: without PAL/CRT emulation the PAL color blending between raster lines will not show up. See http://hitmen.c02.at/temp/palstuff/ under "PAL Decoding".

So this screenshot you made is kinda wrong: http://studiostyle.sk/dmagic/gallery/court7.gif
The blue/brown lines inside the mouth are actually a mixed color.
User Comment
Submitted by Sabbi on 25 August 2011
Cool Pic! And thanks for pointing out that it's actually an Explosion in the background! Did not realise this until today....
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 25 August 2011
Thanx. That blurred pal emulation is evil. At least you could have filled in the type of gfx (multicolor) Anyway it never looks blurred on real CRT monitor I wonder why some of people adding stuff here are using this. Can anyone explan to me the good reason behind that?
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 25 August 2011
sorry, .png uploaded instead of .prg : )

reupped/fixed.
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 25 August 2011
prg file is missing.
User Comment
Submitted by Cybortech on 25 August 2011
Based on the original c64 disk/casette cover:



INCLUDING better explosion in the background and a Galway's Rambo styled music. : )))
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