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Released At :
X'2012
Achievements :
C64 Demo Competition at X'2012 : #4
Credits :
Code | .... | Axis of Arsenic, Oxyron |
| | Bitbreaker of Arsenic, Nuance, Oxyron |
| | Devia of Ancients, Arsenic |
| | DJ Gruby of Arsenic, Oxyron |
| | Kronos of Arsenic, Future Concepts |
| | TheRyk of Arsenic, C64 Club Berlin, Mayday! |
Music | .... | dEViLOCk of Arsenic, Tristar & Red Sector Inc. |
Graphics | .... | Celtic of Arsenic, No Name |
| | Sphinx of Arsenic |
| | Veto of Arsenic, Oxyron |
| | Yazoo of Arsenic, Oxyron |
Charset | .... | Veto of Arsenic, Oxyron |
| | Yazoo of Arsenic, Oxyron |
Loader | .... | Krill of Plush |
Help | .... | DeeKay of Crest |
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User Comment Submitted by Raistlin on 30 October 2024
Great demo! I never saw this one before - lots of cool stuff here! And amazing art too.
On that last part, as someone mentioned, pressing space doesn't halt the scrolling .. and they're checking for an exact value (#$ef) on $dc01. I'm not sure what the top bits are, I assume unpredictable .. in VICE at least I see #$7f normally and #$6f if you press space. Anyway, to fix it, just enter VICE mon and:-
> 2945 29 10
And it'll work as expected.
Brilliant demo throughout, though, really nicely put together. | User Comment Submitted by Thunder.Bird on 14 June 2015
The first minute is too soft imho! But that may be a part of the message.
I really like it from minute 2 on until the end, when it really gets my full ack! (When "Cause of death" melody starts")
And all in all it's too short.
But hold on your pirates pipes: 9/10 from me.
(not hoping to get a Dithmarscher next X :D) | User Comment Submitted by Sith on 28 October 2013
For a moment there I thought the music was made by Reyn Ouwehand as the SID 'music instruments' sound very similar to his. Devilock did an awesome job and mentioning Reyn I see as giving a great compliment to devilock since Reyn is one of the two Dutch legends.
The demo may not be overly spectacular but it still is a solid release that delivers. It's a bit grim and dark at times but with such a title you can expect that. :) | User Comment Submitted by Cresh on 16 February 2013 User Comment Submitted by Frantic on 28 December 2012
I am not generally a fan of twisters, but I think the one in this demo is quite fresh! | User Comment Submitted by Yazoo on 28 December 2012
what peiselulli and veto say | User Comment Submitted by v3to on 23 December 2012 User Comment Submitted by Peiselulli on 14 November 2012
Great music !!! I cannot get this out of my brain ...
| User Comment Submitted by Jak T Rip on 12 November 2012
Nicely paced demo with a great soundtrack, some nice design ideas and a fantastic surface plotter. Also the intro fits nicely, Mr. Ryk! | User Comment Submitted by Magic on 11 November 2012
Nice demo.. Seeing many members who also worked on coma light 13 though.. So whats the story behind this? :) keep em coming | User Comment Submitted by Axis/Oxyron on 10 November 2012
You are so wrong Oswald. When you watch the plotball frame by frame, you wont see any dot missing or disappearing. And If you take a closer look into the code, you will see ORA opcodes, but only very few of them (26 per frame). Its all about sorting the data into the right order to avoid uneeded operations. ;o)
And this is excatly moving with the same speed and angle step as the plotballs by Beyond Force and Booze Design. I think only Gremlin and HCL know why. It´s just an optical illusion that it moves faster, due to the uniform distribution of the plots.
| User Comment Submitted by Oswald on 9 November 2012
plotball does not ora, I'd say thats why it moves fast, and also why it could be a record :) | User Comment Submitted by Bitbreaker on 9 November 2012
@BHF: as for my parts, that is not true, as i had them already there as protoypes before i even joined Oxyron (and thus knew about the CL13 project). You should know that, as i showed you some of my more recent prototypes at Revision :-)
The only thing i added to the twister was the shadow, to tease Axis who just redid all the shadow stuff on his coma light twister as he was not satisfied by his first version :-)
| User Comment Submitted by BHF on 6 November 2012
I like the intro and the "slotmachine" part with the selector, kudos for sound ! Music is very good and there are some pretty cool graphics here and there.
Transistions works well, but some of the parts looks like "leftover parts" compared to the Oxyron demo ;) Plotpart is the best ! | User Comment Submitted by Skate on 31 October 2012
We have seen better demos from Arsenic before but i still liked the show. it's dynamic and fun to watch. there are some very good looking parts but also some poor parts exist which keep the demo from being memorable in long term. But i'm really happy about Arsenic for being active and productive in our scene. | User Comment Submitted by PAL on 31 October 2012
I like this demo... it is a demo with a lot of seen routines but holds a great sound and demo mood! logo in plot ball is super. | User Comment Submitted by psych on 31 October 2012
I do also enjoy soundtrack from this demo. Intro is a killer. | User Comment Submitted by Hydrogen on 31 October 2012
Best fire effect I have ever seen. Also twister and plotter is looking very good.
For me, the moment of the demo is the double plasma effect which starting with wonderful music. Maybe the effect is not too hard to coding, but the screen is really dynamic with the music.
Soundtrack is amazing. Especially the second music: Crazy amazingly wonderful :) Gratz... | User Comment Submitted by HCL on 31 October 2012
@CRRN: I didn't mean this is a fake-release just because it contains only 3 countable effects, and not being an Oxyron-release. I think i have understood the ethics behind Arsenic's demos by now, so i try to judge them from what i see and what i hear. This time i was more impressed with some demos placed lower in that compo, that's all.
Perhaps it also has to do with the theme(s). Arsenic demos seem to more or less always include elements of fear, creatures and gore etc. Maybe it's just not my cup of tea. | User Comment Submitted by Bitbreaker on 31 October 2012
@CreaMD:
"I would rather see the effects used as the instruments in causes of death than being separated from the topic"
Well. just imagine it is somesones neck being twisted that hard, or it is the water someone is drowing in or fire someone is burning in :-) But i guess that is, where the 6 weeks of fiddling together get visible, yes :-) | User Comment Submitted by Nightlord on 31 October 2012
I actually liked this demo a lot. It has a nice flow and some great effects/graphics. But the highlight for me was the soundtrack. especially the part that plays behind the end scroller. great effort and sincere congrats | User Comment Submitted by Yogibear on 30 October 2012
This is a fantastic effort with a great ending! | User Comment Submitted by CreaMD on 30 October 2012
Heyyyy, thanx for greetings! ;-) Anyway, I don't have good news for your. The demo looks more like collections of effects (some interesting, some less interesting) and idea was mainly conveyed through pics. I was more impressed by simple fast changing text to the music (in the beginning), after the part with wise lady saying things to us while some chunky math effects were effected in the corner, than by some effects that followed. Big twister was probably the cutest effect of them all.. and hell... it fitted in this demo when you consider it as a coder's skills presentation ;-). This or that, I would rather see the effects used as the instruments in causes of death than being separated from the topic of the demo. 8 points from me. | User Comment Submitted by hedning on 30 October 2012
Very nice, and impressive that you did most of it in 6 weeks! | User Comment Submitted by HCL on 30 October 2012
Well, a nice demo, but i second Burglar.. I liked some lower ranked demos from the compo better.. Generally there are just 3 impressing effects in here (you know i'm only able to see it that way..): Fire, Twister and PlottBall. Too little to get #4 in the compo.
But on the other hand, those 3 effects were really nice :). The fire was beautiful, perhaps not too hard to do, don't know actually, doesn't matter. Twister also beautiful and tricky. PlottBall :P.. I'll be back ;) (or not). | User Comment Submitted by Burglar on 30 October 2012
nice one! altho I liked a couple lower placed demos more.
got good gfx and music, and some code is better than others.
I would have liked to see the plotball-wr run with a slower movement. it's 50 fps (right?), but it moves so fast, it looses a bit of detail. | User Comment Submitted by Tim on 30 October 2012
Guys.. thanks for a great demo.. 8/10 from me!
Minor setback for me is that the storyline does not really flow as cute (or evil if you will) as it could do.. I guess mainly graphics wise, as it reminds me of "too many cooks spoil the broth"
That said.. an awesome amount of people working on this demo which in itself is an achievement too!
Last but certainly not least.. there where the Oxy demo dropped points for my taste, Arscenic delivered:
I take my hat of in very high respect.. what an AWESOME audio package from Devilock!!! | User Comment Submitted by spider-j on 29 October 2012
Yeah, music is really strong in this one. But since Hertzblut I'm a dEViLOCk fan anyway :-)
Congrats guys to 4th place! | User Comment Submitted by dEViLOCk on 29 October 2012
Thanx for your comments so far! You make me a very happy dEViLOCk! ^_^ You can download the tunes sampled directly from the machine I composed on (C64-II, 8580 SID) at http://devilock64.bandcamp.com/ in full quality. The tunes are called "Cause Of Death" and "Resurrection". | User Comment Submitted by Optimus on 29 October 2012
It's a good enough demo, though it's surprising it ended so high and above biba3 and protogeo. 2-3 parts/effects are interesting but the best not. However it has good graphics/design. | User Comment Submitted by Slator on 29 October 2012
was really nice to see it during the compo, nice parts, for sure no "leftovers". Devilock did an awesome job which pushes the demo up some levels. some of the best trackmo-tunes I have ever heard. great stuff by all of you. | User Comment Submitted by TheRyk on 29 October 2012
Thx 4 all the nice comments, indeed, Devilock did the hardest job and the music is what really keeps everything together imho.
@Xiny: Use a "new"/8580 SID for recording it, that's what Devilock composed it on. Doesn't sound bad on 6581, though, so mixed 6581/8580 Stereo environment might also be worth recording. | User Comment Submitted by Xiny6581 on 29 October 2012
Totally blew my mind away. I never knew it was possible to force the SID to make such a sounds :)
Just some tech. aspects. What exact SID model and revision is expected to get most of this? (since I am planing to record them). | User Comment Submitted by Mixer on 29 October 2012 User Comment Submitted by redback on 29 October 2012
Really enjoyed this demo at X especially the great SID tracks. Made by great guys to hang out with at X | User Comment Submitted by G-Fellow on 29 October 2012
'Cause of Death' is a great demo. I really did say WoOOoW when I did watch it in the Live stream from SceneSat. Really great graphic, good effects and music.
Good work guys! Big gratulations for a great place #4 in the X12 demo compo! | User Comment Submitted by Yazoo on 29 October 2012
thanks alot carrion :) btw - this really is no leftovers from oxyron. the plotball was coded by axis especially for the arsenic-demo. the two parts by bitbreaker are a little older i think (from a time before he joined oxyron)... and also the big rest of the non-oxyron members worked really hard to make it a unique production (like sphinx, devilock, devia, kronos, theryk, celtic and everyone who was involved - just to add some names) | User Comment Submitted by Luca on 29 October 2012
Some very lovely parts, and a BIG twister.
Maybe it's my bad, please verify: pressing space in the last part doesn't halt the scrolling. |
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