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You Know the Routine 2   [2004]

You Know the Routine 2 Released by :
Camelot [web]

Release Date :
12 April 2004

Type :
C64 Demo


Released At :
Breakpoint 2004

Achievements :
C64 Demo Competition at Breakpoint 2004 :  #1

User rating:********__  7.8/10 (16 votes)   See votestatistics
********__  8.3/10 (10 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Cruzer of Camelot, CML Sports
Music .... Drax of Bonzai, Crest, Maniacs of Noise, Vibrants
  Fanta of Oxyron, Plush
  Jeff of Bonzai, Camelot, Crest, Viruz
Graphics .... Cruzer of Camelot, CML Sports
  VIC of Camelot, CML Sports
Text .... Cruzer of Camelot, CML Sports
  Slammer of Camelot

SIDs used in this release :
6581 House(/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/6581_House.sid)
Arabian Bias(/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Arabian_Bias.sid)
Commodore 64(/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Commodore_64.sid)
Schoko Wölkchen(/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Schoko_Woelkchen.sid)

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User Comment
Submitted by Wile Coyote on 25 January 2012
Good demo. I really liked the part feat:
The small dark grey CML logo with the raster split pattern FX moving around above.
User Comment
Submitted by plagueis on 14 June 2009
Diagonal raster bars and hires 16 color plasma ruled!! The whole demo is great too...I prefer the first one, but this is so good to see.
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Submitted by maestro on 21 January 2008
is that arabian_bias the tune in the noter ??? if it is i absolutely luv it

jeff superb job

as for the demo very nice indeed
User Comment
Submitted by A Life in Hell on 10 December 2006
Despite being quater screen, this has the coolest plasma ever. (and inspired me to write the one used in the hvsc collection hidden part - hence the music and colour set ripped from here :-p. but that's a pale, pale imitation)
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Submitted by Oswald on 7 December 2006
despite its simpleness (codewise) the tilted rasters are fucking spectacular, and so well executed it would be hard to top it. Another highlight is the last plasma part.
User Comment
Submitted by tempest on 24 August 2005
Brilliant music from Drax!
(this demo isn't just for coders...)
User Comment
Submitted by Zyron on 29 April 2005
I love this screenshot.
User Comment
Submitted by Ninja on 15 April 2004
Nice one. The only demo at Breakpoint I don't mind losing to...
User Comment
Submitted by Oxidy on 13 April 2004
There's nothing wrong with having a good and well-designed presentation. I could care less about if it's the classic press-space demo or a trackmo, but themes, fades, design and appearance are not unnecessary things. They're not essential, but makes a demo better. With that said, this demo is good due to its kickass effects, but could be better. ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Clarence on 13 April 2004
I guess this is a demo mainly for coders, and coders don't necessarily need design, they see the beauty of the routines no matter what the appearance is. ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Krill on 13 April 2004
Actually Cruzer's principles in coding demos impress me. Scrapping unnecessary brush-ups like thinking up a theme, doing some trackmo linking and fades in order to go for coding and releasing as many pure effects as possible. Really takes some balls to do that.
User Comment
Submitted by TDJ on 13 April 2004
I actually think this one's better than the first, also design-wise.
User Comment
Submitted by Cruzer on 13 April 2004
It was finished in a hurry, so I guess it could have been a bit more well designed and maybe even less boring if we had had the time. We're prolly gonna use some more time on these things for the next one, although I don't really care much about it.

And thanx for bringing it to bp04, Fanta! Looking forward to the prize, although I bet you're gonna steal it. ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Fanta on 12 April 2004
all in all a cool retro camel-production! i only wonder who submitted the demo to the bp04 competition, can´t remember any camels at the party. ;) jailbird, hope my shorty didn´t bore you too much while watching the last part for half an hour. :)
User Comment
Submitted by CyberBrain on 12 April 2004
This demo is cool. It has some nice effects. Who cares if you gotta press space? Not every fukkin demo has to be a trackmo
User Comment
Submitted by leonofsgr on 12 April 2004
Very rooooolz Demo!!! :_)))
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Submitted by CreaMD on 12 April 2004
I've read the note. As Blackdroid said it's not bitching, it's just calm and decent opinion. I don't have anything against releasing of old routines and parts and I'm really happy to read cool scroller by other Camelot member etc. etc. And music in the bars part was great. I wish I could hear this one in some full-blown trackmo. And... It's really great to have Camel guys back in the scene.. even if it was for a short while.. It's great.
User Comment
Submitted by blackdroid on 12 April 2004
[vic] im not bitching ( hence the lack of "oh why dont they do it like this" ), I just stated my 0.02e
User Comment
Submitted by Shake on 12 April 2004
Might be VIC, but the first YKTR did succeed more in design. A bit more pollished, that's why the expectations for this one were the same. Anyway, the effects ruled again.
User Comment
Submitted by VIC on 12 April 2004
Please read the note for a description of the YKTR concept before bitching about lack of consistency and irqloaders... The idea about Cruzers YKTR series is not to do design demos, but to get back to oldskool with some kickass coding... YKTR is all about code (hence: "THE ROUTINE"), not eyecandy...

Edit: the main reason for it not being more consistent was, that it was a last minute (ok, week;) decision to release it at Breakpoint, and Cruzer (understandably) felt more like optimizing the code than spending hours of work incorporating the proposed designschemes...
User Comment
Submitted by CreaMD on 12 April 2004
I must agree with Blackdroid. It has some really awesome musics and interesting effects and tricks. Only negative is that it's served splitted into parts. I wouldn't say it's boring, but it lacks consistecy. Otherwise it's a really cool demo.
User Comment
Submitted by blackdroid on 12 April 2004
some nice code and awesome music, but in the end incredibly booring.
User Comment
Submitted by Optimus on 11 April 2004
Especially that plasma is really great! I think I haven't a 16 color highres plasma on C64 before (I can't think how is it possible now, since there are color clashes on C64). Wow!
User Comment
Submitted by jailbird on 11 April 2004
What an amazing bunch of magical code! I must take my hat off. I especially liked the diagonal rasterbars and the fabulous 16 color plasma. In these late (or early?) hours (4:25am here), I was watching the plasma part for more than half an hour. This demo rocks butts!
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