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Vice Tribute   [2020]

Vice Tribute Released by :
Bonzai [web]

Release Date :
12 April 2020

Type :
C64 One-File Demo

Released At :
Revision 2020

Achievements :
WiLD Demo Competition at Revision 2020 :  #9

User rating:*********_  9.4/10 (19 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  10/10 (6 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Walt of Bonzai
Music .... Drax of Bonzai, Camelot, Crest, Maniacs of Noise, Vibrants
Graphics .... Fox of Bonzai
Help .... Trap of Bonzai

Download :
http://csdb.dk/getinternalfile.php/197441/ViceTribute-BZ.zip (downloads: 420)

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User Comment
Submitted by aNdy on 20 April 2020
Like, wow!
User Comment
Submitted by DKT on 18 April 2020
Really cool idea and the screen looks so yumee :)
Love the bottom bars.
User Comment
Submitted by Compyx on 15 April 2020
Isn't there some gfx format that allows for 'animations'? That would allow showing the full 'magic' of vice full borders vs the actual HW.
User Comment
Submitted by Monte Carlos on 14 April 2020
Plz add debug borders to the real hw ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Motion on 13 April 2020
Good looking and clever stuff!
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 13 April 2020
Krill: My point being: If it's added as a C64 One-File demo, the screenshot should reflect what's seen on a C64. If the screenshot stays, the release should be sorted under Related or Other Platform Release. :)

My setup: https://imgur.com/3nZpnmR (sorry for the evil sun).
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 13 April 2020
Quote:
If your C-64 (or monitor) shows such a horribly out-of-sync b&w picture, fix it.

hehe. this was made with a capturing device, and the pic only shows the luma signal (and obviously a bit more than one frame).
User Comment
Submitted by Krill on 13 April 2020
hedning: No, not at all. Please re-read everything, closely, and run it on realthing yourself.
If anything, there should be either a real screenshot from realthing, or from VICE in full border mode rather than debug border mode.
If your C-64 (or monitor) shows such a horribly out-of-sync b&w picture, fix it.

Walt: Yes, and i was convinced myself in the end by Cruzer and others and luckily did not meet any objection from VICE team. =)
User Comment
Submitted by hedning on 13 April 2020
Groepaz: So that should be the actual screenshot then, at least as long the entry is sorted under "C64 One-File Demo". As it is now it's more of a Other Platform thing, or "Related release", I would say. Said that: Great stuff!
User Comment
Submitted by Dr.j on 13 April 2020
appy Easter Bonzai such a great tribute to the VICE staff! i don't care how it was been done, i love the outcome! you bring ppl together!!...such a lovely message to all of us! thanks for the greetings for Delysid!
User Comment
Submitted by Walt on 13 April 2020
WOW! Very cool :)
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 13 April 2020
Zero-X provided this sample from the real thing, which nicely shows the actual limits of the hardware: http://oms.wmhost.com/bonzai.png
User Comment
Submitted by Yogibear on 13 April 2020
Cool stuff!
User Comment
Submitted by Golara on 12 April 2020
@Digger, take look at this. This shows a black and white video signal, but the timing is the same for color or svideo. The debug borders in vice creates a video frame like the whole 64us of this line had the visual picture information
http://martin.hinner.info/vga/vdvidsig.gif
User Comment
Submitted by Frantic on 12 April 2020
Cool one! :) ...and yes, the VICE team definitely deserves a big fat THANK YOU for all the work.
User Comment
Submitted by Golara on 12 April 2020
@Digger. This demo uses more screen space than a real C64 draws. There are additional cycles per line that are not visible in the video singla, if you look on osciloscope you have 4.7us of hsync, then few more us of color burst and only then you get the real video signal. And it doesn't last for the whole time one line takes anyway. In VICE there's an option to display "debug border" which is like a virtual c64 screen where every single cycle on a line has real graphics. I don't know how to explain this better, hope it makes sence
User Comment
Submitted by Stone on 12 April 2020
Fantastic! Lovely tune too :D
User Comment
Submitted by Digger on 12 April 2020
Tears of joy over my face! I remember I had a monitor that had H/V-sync dials, but I doubt it would allow to offset that much in X...
Anyway, it feels like 2020 is the time C64 finally deserves 16:9 resolution, ain't it?

How is the C64 video signal cropped to 4:3 anyway? Can this be lifted?
User Comment
Submitted by Case on 12 April 2020
Stunned.
User Comment
Submitted by Jammer on 12 April 2020
WTF?! :D Cycles are totally raped! :O
User Comment
Submitted by Walt on 12 April 2020
@Krill: Of course I love that it was added... And I have to side with Cruzer on this one :)
User Comment
Submitted by Krill on 12 April 2020
Nice stuff. I guess enthusi was right, after all. =)

From Screen limits :

2007-03-13 09:23 Krill
Ok, so i just patched VICE to display as much border as i want. I am planning to submit this fix to the source, so it will be in in one of the future versions.

2007-03-13 11:44 enthusi
such an option will probably make 90% of border-scrollers impossible to read on the real thing in future productions.
Forgive my whining, I just don't wanna have "hidden part: watch with vice".

2007-03-13 12:03 JackAsser
@krill, enthusi: On a real setup you can use the dials on your 1084s to adjust amount of visible gfx. I see no reason why this behaviour and usage shouldn't be emulated with VICE. :D Perferably using USB-dials to do the changes if I may feature creap a bit. ;)

2007-03-13 14:22 Krill
I don't see the point. You want to do fancy border effects, then switch on full borders and do it. Otherwise, resort to normal VICE borders. Anything in between is nonsense, as well as more borders than you see on any C64 setup.

2007-03-15 08:21 Cruzer
I for one would like to see all 312 lines, so I could see how much rastertime all subroutines used.

2007-03-15 10:51 Krill
Hmm ok, i am slowly getting convinced to add that option. So the VIC-II settings dialogue will contain a radio button group where you can choose between "Normal Borders", "Full Borders", and "Debug Borders". :)

2007-03-20 08:10 Krill
Okay, so i sent the patch to the VICE team last night.
User Comment
Submitted by Groepaz on 12 April 2020
Funky! Had to install Windows 10 just to watch it! :)
User Comment
Submitted by Golara on 12 April 2020
This is a really cool looking screen. I wish a real C64 had this kind of resolution, though having the main window be tiny and on the right would not be nice most of the times hehe.
SPOILER HOW ITS DONE:
More than 4 sprites on the border because you don't open the border on badlines, the font has 2 blank top pixels. The top logo is a normal multicolor in a border with just 4 sprites, that's why it's "only" 416 or so pixels wide
User Comment
Submitted by Shine on 12 April 2020
W T F!!!
Unf***ing believable! <3
User Comment
Submitted by Walt on 12 April 2020
@ZeSmasher: You're welcome :) Actually I was afraid someone would beat me to it :(
User Comment
Submitted by ZeSmasher on 12 April 2020
great one. cool you quoted my comment :)
happy Easter Bonzai and all.
User Comment
Submitted by Viscid on 12 April 2020
Nice! But I honestly have to check how this was done ;)
User Comment
Submitted by Perplex on 12 April 2020
Love it!
User Comment
Submitted by nomistake on 12 April 2020
OMFG!!!
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