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TCBI50k   [2020]

TCBI50k Released by :

Release Date :
27 December 2020

Type :
C64 One-File Demo

That Cant be in 50k

User rating:*********_  9.4/10 (24 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  10/10 (9 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Algorithm of Algotech
Sampling .... Algorithm of Algotech

SIDs used in this release :
That Can't be in 50k(/MUSICIANS/K/Khugiani_Naveed/That_Cant_be_in_50k.sid)

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User Comment
Submitted by wacek on 4 November 2022
Algorithm, maybe you could try something like this with some specially created, original content geared towards the encoder. I can create something with completely reverb-less vocals, or with specific directions regarding rhythms section, whatever. If you ever find that an interesting idea, let me know ;)
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Submitted by Hydrogen on 6 January 2021
Amazing quality.
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Submitted by Joe on 28 December 2020
"He ate crashed glass" is perhaps what one could describe the sound as. Those crystal-like tearing, which most has get to know during this years video-conversations, or not. Nice part from that. Impressive as is, the next is of course releasing the editors (like you did with CSAM) so more can try it on.
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Submitted by ChristopherJam on 28 December 2020
Yes, interesting approach, but the vocals really have been slaughtered.

Poor Rick :D
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Submitted by algorithm on 28 December 2020
@copyfault, Yes the preprocessing is pretty important and adjusting the encoded data later may also help. I did also adjust encoder overlap/lookahead and it did improve matters but not as good as what i had hoped. The solution at the moment is really to choose a vocal that has naturally less reverb to it. The reverb content destroys the speech also considering that everything is produced with just 3 sines at 20ms adjustments. Even with de-reverb, the content reproduction is not as good as encoding content that had less reverb to start with The madonna example i posted for example sounds a lot clearer in the speech.
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Submitted by Copyfault on 28 December 2020
Nice piece of compression&audio trickery :)

The idea of separating the voice from the rest of the song sounds promising... but I have to admit I also hear quite some gargling in the voice. Did not delve deeper into the algo, but could applying some kind of frequency filter to the voice's raw data eliminate (or lower) the gargling?

But I really like it with the voice as is!
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Submitted by algorithm on 28 December 2020
The speech quality is highly dependant on the source. Unfortunately I was not patient. Tried it with another source (madonna) and sounds considerably better.. Some short example here https://www.dropbox.com/s/3fyix7hlh0etr2g/test-madonna.avi?dl=1
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Submitted by Oswald on 27 December 2020
must be a world record, a whole pop song in 50k, the synth sounds very good, the speech has the gargling problem, but I dont mind, makes me smile good old c64 can do this :)
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Submitted by Flotsam on 27 December 2020
Coolness overload.
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Submitted by Mixer on 27 December 2020
Crazy stuff.
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Submitted by chancer on 27 December 2020
very good stuff, if you can include the lyrics. a certain person (who will remain nameless) can sing along ;-)
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Submitted by chatGPZ on 27 December 2020
Rick Astley being strangled. like :)
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