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No Bounds   [2023]

No Bounds Released by :
Genesis Project [web]

Release Date :
3 June 2023

Type :
C64 Demo

Website :

Released At :

Achievements :
C64 Demo Competition at X'2023 :  #4

User rating:**********  9.6/10 (92 votes)   See votestatistics
**********  9.8/10 (32 votes) - Public votes only.

Credits :
Code .... Elder0010 of Genesis Project
  Raistlin of C64GFX Staff, Genesis Project
  Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG, Propaganda Magazine Staff
Music .... acrouzet of Genesis Project
  psych858o of Censor Design, Elysium, Genesis Project, MultiStyle Labs
  Stinsen of Genesis Project
Graphics .... Elder0010 of Genesis Project
  Facet of Bonzai, Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Satellite
  Raistlin of C64GFX Staff, Genesis Project
  Razorback of Genesis Project
  redcrab of Genesis Project, Goin' Sideways, Performers
  Scrap of Genesis Project
  Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG, Propaganda Magazine Staff
Disk Cover .... Electric of Extend
Charset .... Facet of Bonzai, Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Satellite
  Raistlin of C64GFX Staff, Genesis Project
  redcrab of Genesis Project, Goin' Sideways, Performers
  Scrap of Genesis Project
  Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG, Propaganda Magazine Staff
Linking .... Elder0010 of Genesis Project
  Raistlin of C64GFX Staff, Genesis Project
  Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG, Propaganda Magazine Staff
Loader .... Sparta of Genesis Project, OMG, Propaganda Magazine Staff
Docs .... hedning of Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Radio 6581
Test .... Elder0010 of Genesis Project
  hedning of Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Radio 6581
Help .... hedning of Genesis Project, Propaganda Magazine Staff, Radio 6581
Directory Art .... tNG of Fairlight

SIDs used in this release :
No Bounds(/MUSICIANS/P/Psych858o/No_Bounds.sid)

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User Comment
Submitted by Burglar on 9 November 2023
thank you for releasing the sources, raistlin! very much appreciated :)
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Submitted by Gordian on 22 October 2023
O! Thanks:) It was pleasure to listen it.
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Submitted by Raistlin on 22 October 2023
@Gordian, just for you, a Beeb version of the tune from “Negative Charge” :-) … https://youtu.be/ot1bpxFx5Qs
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Submitted by Gordian on 27 September 2023
Really cool music in part 1.
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Submitted by Chico on 8 September 2023
Breathtaking effects \O/ 10/10
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Submitted by Dr.Science on 12 August 2023
Wonderful demo! Such a pleasure to watch this one, I'm coming back to this one again and again :-) Can't say which of the parts I like most - they are all great. Awesome code Raistlin, Elder and Sparta! MSX & GFX are fantastic, too!
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Submitted by Magic on 23 June 2023
This demo is doing all these kind of effect tricks where u need to know the inner machinery of the breadbin! And that is just hats off!! Not everything is next level or WOOOOOOOW but for sure this is just a great effect driven demo.. The music is very strong to! Bob's balls the next evolution.. But the whole place clapping in memory of shadow is the best part for me!! Keep em coming G*P.. Greetz to Raistlin!
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Submitted by Raistlin on 18 June 2023
Quoting “Bob”
world records made to perfection. Raistlin you fooled mee, that you won't be able to work on a X demo etc. But obviously its here

Hah, thanks Bob :-) .. next time I’ll tell you the truth and you won’t believe me - or am I just telling you this so that you will? ;p

Thanks for the kind comments (here and offline) about the bobs, too - looking forward to your answer :-) … not all groups took the rivalry so well (when they calm down I’m sure they’ll review the demo properly ;p).
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Submitted by PARALAX on 12 June 2023
Fantastic demo! It can also be watched as part in our livestream at 01:22:09 which also include a "Best of X2023 Demoparty" special part. :-)
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Submitted by 4mat on 11 June 2023
Love this, particularly the colour blending on the shifting checkerboard effect.
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Submitted by Trap on 10 June 2023
This almost feels like a Bonzai demo ;) ... in every possible positive way. So happy to see you guys kicking some serious ass. just 3 coders on this one. That requires a LOT of respect from everybody. You guys definitely upped the game in super polished demos with awesome effects. Subtle storytelling. Oh man, it's all in there. You guys totally rock my boat and it isn't that hard to make out who made what in the demo - that's unique <3
I have to say that my favorite part in this was the no bounds alcatraz bars. I just love those build-up bragging parts and you totally nailed this one. Thank you for keeping the oldschool bragging alive .. and also in the vectorplotter part - the subtle bragging is really great. Thank you so much for making this. I loved every second <3
... however, you guys really suck a chess :D :D :D
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Submitted by Burglar on 9 June 2023
live capture by magic/nah
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Submitted by Bob on 9 June 2023
Proper good shit ;) total old-school code pr0n, including loads of rasters, sideborders and world records made to perfection. Raistlin you fooled mee, that you won't be able to work on a X demo etc. But obviously its here. Also nice to meet you Sparta at X what a blast. Totally love this kind of demos since it stays true to the core values of how demos where made from the very beginning in the scene. It a nice reminder where we all came from 8)=) rasters'n'shit. *Awesome Work* Thanx for the Bobs ;)
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Submitted by trident on 9 June 2023
highlights for me:

* the upscroll that moves towards and away from the observer is very smooth
* the swingy gp logo with perspective colors looks like a nicely upgraded version of the logo from memento mori, and a nice touch with the perspective colors
* perspective chessboard - very cool effect, particularly that both the foreground and the background colors change across the screen
* the massive dxycp turn disk effect - old school stuff, i love it
* the double dypp is very big and very smooth
* the 3d chessboard - love how it subtly disappears into the lower border
* dypp chessboard tech tech - wow, those colors! fantastic!
* 302 bobs - as an old school nerd i love the look of this, and i also like how the part ends before all the bobs have scrolled out
* spinning globe - very smooth!
* the dithered color cycling, the one that has the phone booth sprite flying across it, looks great
* limited bobs - very cool improvement of the effect!
* fantastic final picture

overall, i appreciate how the demo doesn't linger too long on each effect - that both gives the demo a "face punch" feeling, and acts as an incentive to watch the demo again.
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Submitted by Mixer on 8 June 2023
Any of the top 4 demos could've won. This has solid flow of a traditional trackmo. Kefrens bars, chessboards and the spiral scroller have me scratching my head.
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Submitted by Raistlin on 8 June 2023
Thanks everyone for all the kind words :-) .. we’ll be back at a future compo, whether X or elsewhere, with more. I can’t speak for the rest of the team, yet at least, but whatever I do next will be more along these lines than the story demos I think. Not to put those down, they are a ton of hardwork for sure, but it’s not the sort of work that I like - I prefer codeporn, like Performers, even if that limits originality* (thinking up new codeporn is hellish). But I do love watching story demos too - so I hope those guys will stick to that as well.

Thanks again and, yeah, we’ll be back. X’s compo was one hell of a rollercoaster ride of emotion for sure.

Special thanks to BitBreaker and others for reaching out with PMs and such. Made my day.

*- I reread this and think I need to clarify.. I’m not implying that Performers’ demo wasn’t original, far from it. I’m thinking more of myself really.. I can’t keep doing DXYCPs and such in every demo… probably hurt this demo quite a bit by iterating on those for the Nth time.
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Submitted by El Jefe on 8 June 2023
Awesome demo from you guys! Happy to have witnessed it on the big screen at the X23 with all the live reactions to it. Felt somehow special! <3
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Submitted by Viscid on 7 June 2023
You know you attended to a good party if this demo gets the fourth place. NICE production guys. Really liked it.
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Submitted by Burglar on 7 June 2023
my favorite G*P demo of all time, it is so great!

/me shakes fist at the rasterbar effect in the beginning, I wanted to make that! /o\ ;)
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Submitted by Pantaloon on 6 June 2023
kudos for 2 disk sides only :) :) and i really like the twist scroller!
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Submitted by NecroPolo on 6 June 2023
Watching this demo was a jawdropping moment for me during the compo. Awesome work!
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Submitted by Jammer on 6 June 2023
A perfect marriage of art and code porn <3
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Submitted by Mibri on 6 June 2023
A textbook G*P demo. Two disk sides, all killer, no filler. So many elegant and exciting parts!
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Submitted by Thunder.Bird on 6 June 2023
My synapses have been triggered well in every aspect.
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Submitted by Sparta on 5 June 2023
Krill, HCL, Clarence - thank you for the interest in the sideborder Kefrens part. :) We never called it a "record", although as far as I know no one has made 206 proper (bug-free) bars in the sideborder before, so perhaps it is indeed a record. Clarence is right, two sprites are used, so the max. visible width of the sine wave is 46 chars, which is less than Crossbow's 51 but the playfield is still about 45% bigger.
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Submitted by Clarence on 5 June 2023
Great demo with nice touches, like the stylish intro and the cut effect on the huge wonderful logo.

Krill, HCL: hard to compare to Crest (or Offence), this one is limited in horizontal play-area, swings and switches sprites from side to side (if I'm not mistaken), but has more bars. Offence was first iirc, but with some gfx update bugs.
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Submitted by Yogibear on 5 June 2023
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Submitted by HCL on 5 June 2023
@Krill It must be "Kefrens-bars" in sideborder.. 200 lines, i guess Crossbow made 128 or so.. Didn't Yup/Offence also do it at that time?
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Submitted by Quiss on 5 June 2023
You guys know no bounds, indeed. Love this.
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Submitted by Hate Bush on 5 June 2023
clean and focused. would earn the #1 spot at 99,9% of the compos easily and deservedly.
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Submitted by Fresh on 5 June 2023
Great flow in this one, fast pace and some nice VIC porn! Thumbs up guys!
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Submitted by Krill on 4 June 2023
Very cosy demo with new touches on not-so-new effects. =)

Not quite sure which exact Kefrens bars record was broken, though. :)
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Submitted by katon on 4 June 2023
Amazing <3
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Submitted by Shine on 4 June 2023
From start to end a VERY POLISHED demo in all aspects! :D
My favorite effect is this unbelievable "double scroller" ! ! ! <3 So smooth
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Submitted by Hypnosis on 4 June 2023
Really nice!
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Submitted by Bitbreaker on 4 June 2023
This was my very personal favourite, as it manages to combine both, a cool modern style with smooth transitiosn with really good effects and new records to raise the bar! This compo was so fucking awesome, i had to applaud to so many things!
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Submitted by 4gentE on 4 June 2023
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Submitted by Joe on 4 June 2023
Some extraordinary parts in this one.
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Submitted by Twoflower on 4 June 2023
Lovely achievement, you can clearly see that a lot of love have been spent on this demo. Overflowing with graphics, matched with quality music and some impressive code. I adore the intro.
While this on reached a well deserved 4:th position in the compo, I can't help to think how much this would have hit like a bomb at a smalled venue, such as Pågadata some weeks ahead.
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Submitted by Mythus on 4 June 2023
What a nice one for sure!! excellent work all involved!
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Submitted by Wile Coyote on 4 June 2023
I like the Turn Disk part.
I really like the black bobs over moving blue female portrait.
I really really like the audio.
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Submitted by Skate on 4 June 2023
I liked it from beginning to the end. Nice combination of good looking and technicial stuff.
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Submitted by encore on 4 June 2023
Superb demo, with great pacing and a nice variation of effects. You guys knocked it out of the park with this one!
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Submitted by Dr.j on 3 June 2023
too much coolnes in one demo! superb!! 10/10 demo , a pure jaw dropper
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Submitted by Inge on 3 June 2023
Really smooth demo. Great work guys!
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Submitted by Dymo on 3 June 2023
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