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2016-02-04 10:02
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Nucrunch 0.1

Continuing from the benchmarks WVL posted in Doynamite 1.x:

I dusted off my unfinished nucrunch in December to pack just enough of the second page of Reutastic to give me some workspace for some precalculations. Pity I didn't schedule enough time to pack the entire demo, else it would have been ~90 blocks instead of 190, but I digress. I've spent bits of the past month cleaning up the code, optimizing the packer (mostly by porting it from python to rust :P), and adding reverse direction support.

It's still no more than a component, with an commandline packer and asm decrunch subroutine, but no tools yet for generating an executable from a single commandline. It does at least now support multiple input segments that are unpacked to their destination addresses, and it's also now useable enough to for me to do some benchmarking.

In short, doynamite's ratio looks pretty unbeatable for anything lz based; my ratio's almost identical despite a somewhat different encoding.

Where I can win though is speed at that ratio; nucrunch is usually ten to twenty percent faster. The one exception in the test corpus is 6.bin, where it's 20% slower; not sure why yet.

I've added the times for pucrunch -ffast below for to complete the comparison. Last two columns are nucrunch, and nucrunch -r (the latter decodes in reverse; should be a more useful component for single filers)

If anyone wants to have a play at this stage, poke me and I'll upload some source. Failing that I'll hold off until I at least have something that can make onefilers without any faffing about with relocating the last couple of pages by hand.

filesizes
#   bin   rle wvl-f wvl-s    tc    bb  pu-f doyna nucru rnucr
- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
1 11008  8020  4529  4151  4329  3383  3711  3265  3225  3230
2  4973  4314  3532  3309  3423  2648  3005  2512  2498  2490
3  3949  3498  2991  2617  2972  2187  2530  2108  2091  2093
4  7016  6456  4242  4085  4225  3681  3924  3617  3622  3614
5 34760 27647 25781 24895 25210 21306 21182 20405 20447 20516
6 31605 12511 11283 10923 11614  9194  9203  8904  8915  8894
7 20392 17295 12108 11285 11445  9627  9789  9289  9140  9144
8  5713  5407  4179  3916  3936  3251  3656  3132  3165  3187
9  8960  7986  6914  6896  6572  5586  6000  5430  5502  5486

filesize in %
#   bin   rle wvl-f wvl-s    tc    bb  pu-f doyna nucru rnucr
- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
1   100  72.9  41.1  37.7  39.3  30.7  33.7  29.7  29.3  29.3
2   100  86.7  71.0  66.5  68.8  53.2  60.4  50.5  50.2  50.1
3   100  88.6  75.7  66.3  75.3  55.4  64.1  53.4  53.0  53.0
4   100  92.0  60.5  58.2  60.2  52.5  55.9  51.6  51.6  51.5
5   100  79.5  74.2  71.6  72.5  61.3  60.9  58.7  58.8  59.0
6   100  39.6  35.7  34.6  36.7  29.1  29.1  28.2  28.2  28.1
7   100  84.8  59.4  55.3  56.1  47.2  48.0  45.6  44.8  44.8
8   100  94.6  73.1  68.5  68.9  56.9  64.0  54.8  55.4  55.8
9   100  89.1  77.2  77.0  73.3  62.3  67.0  60.6  61.4  61.2

number of frames to depack
#   bin   rle wvl-f wvl-s    tc    bb  pu-f doyna nucru rnucr
- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
1     0    11    13    14    15    58    54    27    22    22
2     0     5     7     7     9    38    39    17    14    14
3     0     4     6     6     7    28    31    12    10    10
4     0     8     9     9    10    43    51    20    17    18
5     0    36    39    42    59   300   298   119   104   107
6     0    20    25    25    37   126   152    49    59    59
7     0    22    25    26    32   138   139    60    51    52
8     0     6     8     8    10    43    47    18    16    17
9     0     9    12    12    16    73    81    32    28    29

kilobytes output per second
#   bin   rle wvl-f wvl-s    tc    bb  pu-f doyna nucru rnucr
- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
1        49.0  41.4  38.5  35.9   9.3  10.0  20.0  24.5  24.5
2        48.7  34.8  34.8  27.0   6.4   6.2  14.3  17.4  17.4
3        48.3  32.2  32.2  27.6   6.9   6.2  16.1  19.3  19.3
4        42.9  38.2  38.2  34.3   8.0   6.7  17.2  20.2  19.1
5        47.3  43.6  40.5  28.8   5.7   5.7  14.3  16.4  15.9
6        77.4  61.9  61.9  41.8  12.3  10.2  31.6  26.2  26.2
7        45.4  39.9  38.4  31.2   7.2   7.2  16.6  19.6  19.2
8        46.6  35.0  35.0  28.0   6.5   6.0  15.5  17.5  16.5
9        48.7  36.5  36.5  27.4   6.0   5.4  13.7  15.7  15.1

cycles per byte consumed
#   bin   rle wvl-f wvl-s    tc    bb  pu-f doyna nucru rnucr
- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
1     0    27    56    66    68   337   286   163   134   134
2     0    23    39    42    52   282   255   133   110   111
3     0    22    39    45    46   252   241   112    94    94
4     0    24    42    43    47   230   255   109    92    98
5     0    26    30    33    46   277   277   115   100   103
6     0    31    44    45    63   269   325   108   130   130
7     0    25    41    45    55   282   279   127   110   112
8     0    22    38    40    50   260   253   113    99   105
9     0    22    34    34    48   257   265   116   100   104

decrunch time for nucrunch/rnucrunch relative to doynamite
1:  81.5% (-18.5%)  81.5% (-18.5%)
2:  82.4% (-17.6%)  82.4% (-17.6%)
3:  83.3% (-16.7%)  83.3% (-16.7%)
4:  85.0% (-15.0%)  90.0% (-10.0%)
5:  87.4% (-12.6%)  89.9% (-10.1%)
6: 120.4% ( 20.4%) 120.4% ( 20.4%)
7:  85.0% (-15.0%)  86.7% (-13.3%)
8:  88.9% (-11.1%)  94.4% ( -5.6%)
9:  87.5% (-12.5%)  90.6% ( -9.4%)
 
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2016-02-11 23:37
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 716
I'm sorry CJam, but those numbers for b2 decrunching times just don't make sense. I have setup the same tests (i hope) here at my place, and i get numbers in the same area as Doynax and Nucrunch.. which is expected. Could you please double check you're not using the old bb-decruncher on the b2-files or something.. :)
2016-02-12 04:38
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Curious indeed. I just grabbed the new release, built files with

bench_bb_speed/%.prg: corpus/%.prg Makefile
	mkdir -p bench_bb_speed
	cp $< bench_bb_speed
	b2 -c 1000 $@
	mv $@.b2 $@


and set watches in Vice on 080d and 1000, zeroing stopwatch at the first and recording it at the second.

I was going have another go anyway after patching the decoder to zero $d011, but that would only gain 4-5%. I'll keep you posted.
2016-02-12 07:36
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 716
Ah, so you are making executables (-c).. that explains it :). The executables have a smaller decruncher which is alot slower than the normal one.
2016-02-12 08:25
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
That would do it!

Funny, I was just disassembling in Vice on the off chance the embedded decoder was out of date, and noticing the absence of the sequence of starting STYs :)
2016-02-12 09:35
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 716
I should have understood that when you were talking about translating the decruncher..
2016-02-12 09:41
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 634
So are we meant to be timing with self extracting space optimised exes or speed optimised decompression code? :)
Or both? :)
2016-02-12 09:52
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: So are we meant to be timing with self extracting space optimised exes or speed optimised decompression code? :)
Or both? :)


From a demo coder point of view, the self extracting values are completely useless.
2016-02-12 10:17
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Yup, speed optimised. I just didn't realise that wasn't what was bundled into the self-extracting archive.
2016-02-12 10:34
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675
For games you often (and for tapes always) want in-place depacking of 'raw' packed data.
(load data to $1xxx-$2004, depack to $1000-$2000)
Not streamed and not self-executing.
Doynamite ist just great for that.
Many tools/loaders seem to be tuned for demo-usage, not so much games :)
2016-02-12 10:38
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: For games you often (and for tapes always) want in-place depacking of 'raw' packed data.
(load data to $1xxx-$2004, depack to $1000-$2000)
Not streamed and not self-executing.
Doynamite ist just great for that.
Many tools/loaders seem to be tuned for demo-usage, not so much games :)


This is exactly what we do in demos always, isn't it?
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