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2016-02-23 22:21
Count Zero

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1821
VICE - call for maintainers

Hey there all you (ab)users!

One of your favourite emulators next to HOXS, CCS, Frodo and alike really could use some help.

VICE has an awesome page at https://sourceforge.net/projects/vice-emu/ limited only by SF possibilities.

Many people around here use VICE and heavily avoid using the supplied bug tracker, mailing list or even the repositories. So be it.

Blacky Stardust does some awesome magic to supply Makefiles and project files for an incredible amount of platforms - and he keeps them up-to-date even when the original maintainer abandoned the project a long time ago.
He also recently announced a more rapid release cycle so we can hopefully narrow down problems in the future without asking "please try with a recent build. v2.2 is unsupported for a long time now."


However, if you are an experienced user on a deserted platform,

SUCH AS MAC OS X (!!!)

please check recent mailing list posts at https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/mailman/vice-emu-mail/ and SAVE YOUR OS! :)


If you are using VICE on ANY other "rare" supported platform check the same link and offer your support for testing please!
While we provide WinVICE nightlies there are options to offer support for more platforms of course but I have chosen to not cross-build them as I feel quick testing in a VM is way too short for "maintenance". One should at least be able to test the build on two or more versions of the targetted OS is my personal opinion. Be it _only_ Win XP and Win 7 :).

So, if you feel you can support us by maintaining a port, supply regular builds for "common" platforms or just provide more bug reports to the tracker - DO SO! Don't be the lazy ass I see in the mirror every morning!
2016-02-23 22:36
riq

Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 10
Good to know. Yes, the Mac port has some bugs. I'll try to send the VICE team some patches.
It will definitely help to have the code on git instead of svn. Much easier to send patches & better tools, etc...
2016-02-23 23:53
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 634
Github is definitely a lot better for branch and patch (pull request) management. It also has a bug tracker.
2016-02-24 06:36
soci

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 473
Cool. Use your tools of choice then, for sure we can do something with the output of "git diff" too.
2016-02-24 07:17
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 616
git is also in SJW hell... probably won't be the place of choice for much longer.

If someone would step up and maintain the Windows port you'd garner much love.
2016-02-24 09:03
Fierman

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85
git != github
2016-02-24 14:26
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
we've had no problems with merging patches from other people in the past years, so no, moving to git(hub) will not solve anything.

and just to make clear again what countzero was saying:

THE WINDOWS PORT IS SUBJECT FOR DELETION

THE OSX PORT IS SUBJECT FOR DELETION

...and it needs YOU to step up NOW to make that not happen.
2016-02-24 15:18
Mr. SID

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 421
It feels like it's time for those ports to die.
2016-02-24 15:23
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
personally i'd be more than happy to just delete them. what a relief that would be :)
2016-02-24 17:26
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1055
Crap, did my post earlier today end up in /dev/null? Bah :(
2016-02-24 18:56
riq

Registered: Feb 2015
Posts: 10
> we've had no problems with merging patches from other people in the past years, so no, moving to git(hub) will not solve anything.

You guys want to keep using SVN. And that is fine.
But I disagree that "it won't solve anything". For contributors, it is easier to generate patches and test them by using the git/mercurial workflow and tools.

Once the patch is generated, then merging it, it is the same for SVN or Git. But git/mercurial are more friendly for contributors.

You are looking for maintainers right now (and not contributors), but someone become a maintainer after being an active contributor . The bigger the pool of contributors, the bigger the chances to find possible maintainers.

Anyway, THANK YOU for maintaining VICE!
 
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