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2007-10-08 16:08
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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Sorting

are sorters really so slow in games? :) I have made my unrolled version for my theoretical game (;), and it takes 132 rlines to sort 32 numbers o_O worst case is ~200 lines. tho when its the case of 4 numbers have to be swapped only it does the job in ~10 lines. wastes a lot of memory but I like it :)
 
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2020-04-04 18:27
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
Right, but in that case, where do you fit 32 consecutive bytes of links and ypos?
2020-04-04 19:05
Bezerk
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Registered: Mar 2020
Posts: 5
Here's the zero-page usage in my test code. It obviously wastes 7 unused bytes per MSD bucket list head but it's just for testing.
I'd be happy to send you the source code. PM me if you're interested.

.const NUM_SPRITES = 32
.const NUM_LSD_BUCKETS = 16
.const NUM_MSD_BUCKETS = 14

         * = $10 "Zeropage data" virtual         
       
// Actor y positions in [0,223]
ypos:
.fill NUM_SPRITES,0

// Head of linked list per LSD bucket.
lsd_buckets:
.fill NUM_LSD_BUCKETS, 0

// Next "pointer" in (LSD or MSD) bucket list.
links:
.fill NUM_SPRITES, 0

// Head of linked list per MSD bucket.
msd_buckets:
.fill NUM_MSD_BUCKETS * 8, 0


Memory Map
----------
Default-segment:
  *$0010-$00cf Zeropage data
2020-04-04 21:28
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
It makes sense now. Thank you!
2020-04-05 01:23
CyberBrain
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Posts: 392
Cool routine!! Thanx for sharing! Analyzing how it works was pretty illuminating (aka. fun)
2020-04-05 18:46
ChristopherJam

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1378
Nice work, Bezerk. Good to finally have a comparable radix sort implementation, and a well optimised one at that. Extraordinarily close to one raster line per actor!

The flagged bucket sort I put up at https://www.codebase64.org/doku.php?id=base:flagged_bucket_sort takes around 2423 cycles - significantly slower than field sort or radix.

Somewhat less onerous memory requirements at least; no magic pages, and the zero page use is contiguous :)
2020-04-06 15:14
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Bezerk, can you explain it in detail, frankly I dont understand anything of it :)
2020-04-07 19:06
Bezerk
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Posts: 5
You should Google "radix sort" for a thorough explanation but I can try to explain how the posted code works.

It's a two pass sort.

In the first (LSD) pass you assign each actor to a bucket based on the least significant digit (LSD) of the actor's y-position ($0-$f). Each bucket has a linked list of the actors whose y-position LSD is the same as the bucket index. For example, LSD bucket number $7 has a linked list of actors with y-position LSD = $7 (i.e. $07, $17, ..., $d7). The order in which the actors are processed doesn't matter in this pass.

In the second (MSD) pass you assign each actor to a bucket based on the most significant digit (MSD) of the y-position ($0-$d). In this pass the actors are processed in LSD bucket order (from $0 to $f) and each actor is prepended to the MSD bucket list. The end result is that each MSD bucket list contains actors whose y-position MSD is the same as the bucket index and sorted based on LSD. For example, MSD bucket number $d will have a linked list of actors with y-position MSD = $d (e.g. $da, $d3, $d0). Again, the important point is that each MSD bucket list of actors is sorted in descending y-position order because the actors were added in LSD bucket order.

The final sorted order is then output to the stack by outputting the MSD bucket lists from index $d to $0.

Hopefully this helps enough to let you decipher the code.
2020-04-07 19:20
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
@bezerk: Don't hesitate to put the radix sort implementation on codebase64 :)
2020-04-07 20:34
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Finally, the C-64 scene delivers an answer to the age-old question of which sorting algorithm actually is best.
2020-04-07 21:08
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
thanks, now I get it :)
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