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2017-07-04 10:00
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 138
Release id #157084 : Twice Effect Music Editor

After reading the story behind this: Shouldn't this version be "C64-Crack" released by insane [or insane + shine] instead of "C64-Tool" released by Twice Effect? The latter would imho be the case for the "original" version. Or am I missing something?
Thx for digging this up, btw.!
2017-07-05 23:57
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 1300
Correct - I have created an entry for the code-protected original version here now: Twice Effect Music Editor
I have set the release date to the date when Shine uploaded it here; please correct if it was released already earlier.
2017-07-06 18:08
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 165
This is funny. Everybody who also guessed the code, which is just a simple keystroke, can add himself to the credits for the cracked version. Or add multiple release entries for people who guessed the code after the 4th of July ;-)

I think one entry is enough for both versions, without any crack credits. Release should just be C64 Tool. Btw, the tool is from 1991.
2017-07-06 18:16
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 1300
Well, the crack version has the password protection removed, so it IS a different version IMHO.
Thanks for confirming the release year, added!
2017-07-07 07:43
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 165
Did Insane really released this? He probably is not aware of this. Seems like the uploader released it. The whole entry is wrong in my opinion.

Like I said, this entry should be together with the protected version as one entry.
2017-07-07 15:29
Shine

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 201
Quoting Fred
Did Insane really released this? He probably is not aware of this. Seems like the uploader released it. The whole entry is wrong in my opinion.

Like I said, this entry should be together with the protected version as one entry.

1. Insane did the crack and possibly don't know about this release.
2. Shine only uploaded the cracked version and this is not a release from him.

Why should the uploader get a (released by) credit anyway, when he is only involved in uploading and nothing more? *sigh*

That the facts!

EDIT:
Possibly Solution:

1. Ask Insane if he wants the "released by" credit.
If Yes: Let is like it is
If No: Remove "released by" name from the cracked version. But stay with the crack credit.
2017-07-07 16:32
Groepaz

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 8408
its pretty irrelevant if someone wants a credit or not - what matters is what happened :)
2017-07-07 16:40
Fred

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 165
What really happened is that Insane found the keystroke on 7 January 2017 and not on 4 July 2017 like it is mentioned in the entry.
2017-07-08 14:09
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 1300
But the code doesn't matter in this case - because the code check was removed. Therefore a "crack".
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