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2013-05-07 11:44
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2839
Release id #118713 : Krill's Loader, repository version 146

Please post feature requests, bug reports, questions etc. here.

Highest priority on my to-do list are speed enhancements, anything else you'd like for your next stunning demo?
 
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2013-05-09 18:33
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: wtf is so hard about installing ca65 and then typing "make" in the sourcetree? *shrug*

+1
2013-05-10 02:08
SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
cygwin is so old and unsupported.
is there no proper modern kit ?
2013-05-10 06:24
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5017
Quote: wtf is so hard about installing ca65 and then typing "make" in the sourcetree? *shrug*

many guys around have never used ca65, c compilers, cygwin, from what algorithm writes it also needs perl ? a step by step tutorial would make life for us clueless idiots easyer. what needs to be instealled, what needs to be in path, how to set that up, example make commandlines / config files, etc.
2013-05-10 06:37
JackAsser

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989
Quote: many guys around have never used ca65, c compilers, cygwin, from what algorithm writes it also needs perl ? a step by step tutorial would make life for us clueless idiots easyer. what needs to be instealled, what needs to be in path, how to set that up, example make commandlines / config files, etc.

docs/Prerequisites.txt and docs/Usage.txt

Seriously, it's not _THAT_ hard, even for a complete newbie. If you have interest you _WILL_ work it out, I promise.
2013-05-10 07:06
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
Quoting SIDwave
cygwin is so old and unsupported.
is there no proper modern kit ?


Cygwin is not old and unsupported.
2013-05-10 07:48
Luca

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178
Quote: docs/Prerequisites.txt and docs/Usage.txt

Seriously, it's not _THAT_ hard, even for a complete newbie. If you have interest you _WILL_ work it out, I promise.


I'm gonna amaze all of you: I've written the first post just after some attempts, which have been incredibly performed just after a reading of the docs. I know you're surprised'bout this revelations right now :)

Thank you all for encourage me to try and try again, installing and placing those useful stuff some here and some there trying to make it works, unfortunately I'm not that skilled to understand why there's no 'make' exe to run somewhere (just top say one), but I try and I try and I'll try again, hence root for me.
2013-05-10 13:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114
Quote:
a step by step tutorial would make life for us clueless idiots easyer. what needs to be instealled, what needs to be in path, how to set that up, example make commandlines / config files, etc.

sometimes i am absolutely sure that there is a video tutorial for everything - including how to shit into your own pants.

a coder who never used a c compiler? seriously, no. its not 1988 anymore.

Quote:
docs/Prerequisites.txt and docs/Usage.txt
Seriously, it's not _THAT_ hard, even for a complete newbie. If you have interest you _WILL_ work it out, I promise.

seriously. this. it'll also be very rewarding to have solved a problem entirely by yourself instead of getting it spoon feed by someone else. you may even actually learn something new =P
2013-05-10 13:22
Wisdom

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 90
Merits of open sourcing.
2013-05-10 14:45
Cruzer

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048
Quoting Groepaz
wtf is so hard about installing ca65 and then typing "make" in the sourcetree? *shrug*
Nothing, if it goes well. But there can easily be all kinds of problems you have to figure out.

Quoting Groepaz
sometimes i am absolutely sure that there is a video tutorial for everything - including how to shit into your own pants.
How about on how to not be a complete dick?

Quoting Groepaz
a coder who never used a c compiler? seriously, no. its not 1988 anymore.
Exactly, other languages than C have been invented since then.
2013-05-10 15:23
lft

Registered: Jul 2007
Posts: 369
Quoting Cruzer
Quoting Groepaz
a coder who never used a c compiler? seriously, no. its not 1988 anymore.
Exactly, other languages than C have been invented since then.


Yes, and they all make different tacit assumptions about build systems and dependencies. Do you all know your way around the module systems of Perl, Haskell, Python, Ruby, Scheme48, ATS, Scala and SWI-Prolog, just to name a few?

While I agree with Groepaz that the best approach is to just dive in and try to untangle the knot, I can also appreciate what a dauting task it feels like before the pieces fall into place.

Luca: There's not supposed to be a make.exe. You have to install a make package (GNU make is good), and then you will have a "make" command in your path. Stand in the directory containing a file called "Makefile" and run "make" with no arguments. Also, when you edit a Makefile, make sure to use tabs and not spaces.

Simple when you know it, but like I said, all sorts of tacit assumptions.
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