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2018-03-28 23:07
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 446
GoatTracker 2 Fork - interested?

I fiddled around with the GT2 sources lately - just for my personal interest. It's just visual stuff for "shits and giggles" ...
Currently I'm asking myself (or asking *you* here) if someone else may find this useful.
Checkout http://gt2fork.jansalleine.com/ and tell me what you think about it.
For now I just provided an experimental win32 download, but of course I will share the sources and do some more work on it if anyone bothers ;-)

When I mailed my zeroes to dots idea to Cadaver he said, he liked it, but feels GT development pretty much to be "finished". So I don't know if he'll work on GT anymore.

The current version runs - at least for me - on linux and windows - don't know anything about OSX or whatever this apple system is called yet :-)

Have fun!
spider.
 
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2018-03-29 20:13
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Can I already make a wishlist? xD
2018-03-29 20:28
Stinsen

Registered: Feb 2012
Posts: 71
This is a great initiative spider. As for my wish list it's rather short (but obviously huge in order of implementation effort), Ctrl-Z.
2018-03-30 06:30
spider-j

Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 446
Okay: first step is to make a clean (and complete) version with dots intead of zeroes & color scheme customization.

I also like comfort features as CTRL-Z. Don't know how much work this would be yet. So no promises. I personally would like a "Ninjatracker mode" - which doesn't allow input that would result in the tune not being able to be converted. So when I'm done with the display part I'll definately take a look at the editor code and see what I can do.

But I most likely won't touch the player code. When even Groepaz gave up on that this will be way beyond my abilities I guess.
2018-03-30 07:06
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 193
Quote: This is a great initiative spider. As for my wish list it's rather short (but obviously huge in order of implementation effort), Ctrl-Z.

Agree with this. When I made the one tune I've made in it so far, I was missing undo like crazy.
2018-03-30 11:36
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153
On modern machines you probably can quite easily afford to dump the entire song to a data structure for each undo step.
2018-11-30 19:56
booker
Account closed

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 333
Hi All

Undo is a great feature for sure.

Changing resolution, fonts and color scheme would be also nice. Also SID register dump is cool (like Jeff did in his editors)

Anyone using GT with HardSid Uno (USB)? The follow play is very choppy. It's basically unusable.

Regards
b.
2018-11-30 20:29
4mat

Registered: May 2010
Posts: 63
Could we have a mono speaker mode when using the 2SID version? (stereo is panned hard left/right for each chip) It might already be in there but I never found a way to do it if so.
2018-12-01 11:37
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1289
Quoting 4mat
Could we have a mono speaker mode when using the 2SID version? (stereo is panned hard left/right for each chip) It might already be in there but I never found a way to do it if so.


Raf has already modded GT stereo for mono output but it was 2.70 build :)

GoatTracker Stereo V2.70 Double Mono [2sid]
2018-12-01 11:39
Linus

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638
Quote: On modern machines you probably can quite easily afford to dump the entire song to a data structure for each undo step.

Exactly what I am doing.
2018-12-01 15:52
TDM

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 10
Great initiative and I'm very glad to see this thread. I use Goat tracker daily since it has shown to be versatile and raster economic. I've tried a couple of other editors but for some reason I always get back to GT.

One thing struck me in most editors is that there are very coarse jumps between tempos, so even in Goat Tracker. A higher tempo granularity would open up a lot more possibilities. I have no idea if this is even doable within reasonable effort, but it would change the preconditions for creating music monumentally.

To give an example of what I mean: Today $03 is the fastest tempo and $6 is half the tempo of that. In an ideal situation $0C would be half the tempo of $03 and thus giving more tempo options.
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