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2002-08-19 22:10
Celtic
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Commercial Game laws

Alright after much debate within the NoName team we came up with some laws concerning the Commercial games in the csdb.

Releases:
law #1 : game must have scene related creators, or atleast one

Creators:

law#2: a non scener can be enterred into the database, only to credit him for his ripped material being used by others in scene productions such demos, mags, intros, etc.

law#3: the non scener mentioned in law#2 cannot have his or her games in the csdb, since these are not 'scene related

Well, i guess this should explain it a little bit. For further questions write them down here.
The CSDB team will now slowly adress every game enterred here, and remove when necessary (God what a task.. bah:).

So feel free to comment...
 
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2002-08-21 14:50
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Delete Radwar, what have they ever done for the scene?

*runs away*
2002-08-21 15:03
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 201
TDJ: it's funny, isn't it? when you ask people nowadays, all they can tell you is that Radwar organized some more or less commercial parties ;)

either way, one more thing about this topic...

I'd rather see "professionals" added to the database and credited for their work, than "remixes" with only the names of a guy who changed a color of a sprite, moved a level block, added a more compatible loader system or made it work for Super-CPU (did I mention that I still think that Super-CPU machines are no C64 in my set of definition? =)), claiming "idea, graphics, code and concept" for himself.
2003-10-12 16:54
MwS_RadwaR
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Posts: 9
Quote: TDJ: it's funny, isn't it? when you ask people nowadays, all they can tell you is that Radwar organized some more or less commercial parties ;)

either way, one more thing about this topic...

I'd rather see "professionals" added to the database and credited for their work, than "remixes" with only the names of a guy who changed a color of a sprite, moved a level block, added a more compatible loader system or made it work for Super-CPU (did I mention that I still think that Super-CPU machines are no C64 in my set of definition? =)), claiming "idea, graphics, code and concept" for himself.


@TDJ:

It depends on what scene you mean ..

but i don't really care about what you really mean,
history tells it's own story.

-mws
2003-10-12 19:02
MorGorr
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 47
All those "laws" only make sense if you define what exactly is a "scener". I briefly checked the docs section, but couldn't find any definition.
2003-10-12 19:20
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153
I won't argue about possible ideological issues but for the purpose of those "laws", I think "one who has worked on noncommercial C64-production(s) that have been released through some noncommercial distribution channel" is good enough.
2003-10-13 06:22
Puterman
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 188
For the purposes of this site, people who have been involved in the C-64 demo and/or cracking scene are "sceners". Easy as that.
2003-10-13 08:22
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
@MWS: don't worry, I recognize the role of Radwar for the c64 scene, I was part of it too when you guys were around (my previous post was meant as a joke).

But at the same time I also realize that role is not as big as you guys sometimes would like to make it seem .. there has been plenty of scene-activity going on after you left, you know ..
2003-10-13 17:39
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619
I agree with Puterman's last comment regarding this subject :)
2003-10-15 16:55
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11116
"I won't argue about possible ideological issues but for the purpose of those "laws", I think "one who has worked on noncommercial C64-production(s) that have been released through some noncommercial distribution channel" is good enough."

manfred trenz has released "funpaint II" through 64er magazine for that matter.... not quite "non commercial" though :)
2003-10-15 22:31
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153
Mmhh yes, I thought about lamers :D releasing something through C64 magazines when I formulated that "rule" not depending on definition of "Scene", and yeah, ultimately a magazine such as 64'er isn't noncommercial form of distribution IMO, so I consider my ass covered :)
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