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2015-06-05 12:45
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
Hacked/modfied games - Do you have more info?

Based on the discussion about Demoni +4DGHF , which is a hack of Warhawk with modified graphics, and what Smasher wrote about these hacks and about cracks without intros being sold in Italy. I also got word that in Spain it was done in a similar way.

Maybe you know about other countries this was common?

Also scene groups sometimes modified old games to look a bit different and published them as first releases of new (because widely unknown) games. Cycles +FT is a well known axample for this.

Maybe you know about more games where this was done?
 
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2015-06-06 03:51
Flavioweb

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 447
I think Demoni is a "borderline" case.
Isn't just an hacked version of Warhawk swapped by sceners.
Who made it, did it with the intention to fool a software house causing them to sell the game as original work.
I guess Ian would not notice anything strange if the 'author' also changed the tune...
Demoni had a totally different "story" than piracy games sold in compilations back in the days...
2015-06-06 06:36
Dr.Strange

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 100
Common practice in Italy and Spain. GB64 started to include them in the database with the reference to the original game, which is really handy when you are digging old stuff.

I have no idea if happened in other countries with same frequency to be honest.
2015-06-07 10:55
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1723
Hexenküche?

I believe this was done in Sweden too. I remember distinctly that Karl XII told me he did some translation hack work for HK Electronics mid '80s. Could have been some utility program though.
2015-06-07 12:55
Romppainen
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 40
I'm pretty sure Hexenküche was official localized release.
2015-06-07 15:15
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1723
Quote: I'm pretty sure Hexenküche was official localized release.

Fair enough, but was it done by the author or was it a commissioned binary hack?
2015-06-07 16:20
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11139
pretty sure it was done by palace themselves
2015-06-07 21:55
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2081
yep not hacked but released in 4 languages by Palace
http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/Cauldron
2015-06-09 09:16
Dr.j

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 276
i think it wasn't common at all of changing the game and to release as "another game" and change (whatsoever gfx/music/sprites) i think ppl were smart enough 30 yrs ago
and it was totally lame by crackers to do such stupid
acts. i know this method is got into to trend for games of
apps or on websites (unity sources/flash ) i guess there
are only a few of those hacks
2015-06-09 09:21
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2854
Quoting TheRyk
yep not hacked but released in 4 languages by Palace
http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/Cauldron
Indeed. I seem to remember looking at Cauldron II in different languages, and the entire binary layout was different. Makes it fairly certain they compiled the different language versions from source themselves. :)
2015-06-09 17:28
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
Alpha Flight released a bunch of hacked/modified games in 1995/6 to grab first release points for some old diskmag games, who would have got no points back then because of their age. They were all supplied by Cryonic who also claimed to be the creator of these games. The copyright notices were changed to later dates and creator to Stefan Vocke (Cryonic). The graphics were slighty changed and the ingame texts. Some were also enhanced with creator intros to make them require NTSC fixing and grab more points. Finally they were cäught with Cycles +FT being identified as good old "Speed King" from 1985.

I suspect Cryonic being a fake member and the mods were done by The Ignorance , because the writing style in the additional game intro infront of Worly +2FT is very similar to his scrolltext in his crack intros.

Not all games supplied by Cryonic were identified by now. Maybe you can help?
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